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Originally Posted by noone
I'm looking into buying a used '16 competition M3. I noticed a couple of interest at United BMW, which I understand to be a high volume BMW dealer, and after explicitly asking if these cars were Driving School cars, I was told that yes, they were "Driving Program" cars. At first, the salesman on the phone said it was a leased car driven by a "BMW Executive". When I asked him again if this was a "Driving School" car, he went and checked with his manager and came back and confirmed my suspicion.
Be aware of these cars if you are buying in the used market. In my opinion, these cars are worth a significant amount less than what these are listed for since these were HEAVILY abused cars at M School. Most prospective buyers are probably not even aware these were Driving Program cars. I believe these cars were around 88K new and are selling at dealer auctions for around 66K.
Warning signs of a Driving School car:
1. Used car has the competition package.
2. Used car has carbon ceramic brakes with the cloth seats.
2. Used car has around 5-7K on the odo.
3. Used car's CarFax states a leased car, and then shows the car was sold at a dealer auction and "Listed as a manufacturer vehicle" around the 5-7K mark.
4. DMV registration was in Woodcliff Lake, NJ. This is where BMW NA is located
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Let's be real...don't buy any used car from United. Also, United has a method to how they list the refurb and manufacter buy-backs. Is in the stock numbers. Different ones stand for different things. Their pre-owned BMWs are from 6 different sources including IRS buys. If you are uninformed, you will get hosed. How many people know to ask the specific question about the performance center? Right...exactly. Do you think they'd volunteer the info. Most of the M's from United were used as PC vehicles. If you knowingly want to purchase one from them knowing the history, that's up to you. I'd personally pass. Do you even think they did the manufacturer specified breaking procedure? I think not. If you do, I have the moon to sell you.
But thanks for the Lease tip in Woodcliff, NJ. That I did not know.