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      11-27-2013, 10:24 PM   #120
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Originally Posted by swamp2 View Post
Strongly agree.

No cars perform acceleration runs without a driver. That leads me to say that weights should always be reported with driver, with fluids, 90% or 100% fuel (what ever you like). I'm not too fussed about 7 kg of cargo.

There is not a chance in hell that we'll see a single new M4 with driver weigh in at less than 1500 kg...

1500 kg with no driver, no DCT, no cargo is within about 10 lbs of "80 kg lighter than" 3704 lb assuming it includes DCT. Specifically

1500 + 68(driver) + 7(cargo) + 20(DCT) + 80(difference) = 1675 kg = 3692 lb. I sure hope the 1500 kg figure does not include CSiC brakes... Thus APPLES TO APPLES for a US DCT car is the following:

E92 DCT M3: 3704 lb
F82 DCT M4: 3528 lb (again simply 80 kg less)

My earliest estimate/calculation of the car's weight was about 3590 back in December of 2010...
I am guessing that the 80kg reduction includes the 12kg from the improved 6MT. So only a 68kg reduction for a DCT car.

E92 M3: 3704 lb
F82 M4: 3554 lb (simply 68 kg less)

Even closer to your original estimate of 3590
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