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Originally Posted by mapezzul
The 3.3l makes no sense what so ever. Take the notion that DTM (BWM will have no other forward moving real racing projects going on) is based on a 4.0 l V8, all of BMW'\ Group's production engines are going to a .5l per cylinder configuration why on earth would M go against every thing and create something as silly as a 3.3 liter? They could just tweak the head, plumbing and boost to give them the hp the .3l would give them.
Many have heard that they are basing it on the N55 and that makes sense- they could even use the pistons, rods, rings etc from the DTM car if they wanted- the turbo system from the diesel and write software with little development costs. I have even heard that they have beefed up the lower end with reinforcement in the block as a bolt on so they did not need to cast something different.
Reports also indicate that the board said "no" to the V6 secondary to economies of scale and cost constraints. Let's be honest- If M was going to build a motor from the ground up and charge for it, it would have been in the M5 and M6 but they re-engineered. On that note- the new "halo" M the M 6GC will use a reengineered motor as well- how does that make sense? The M3 goes bespoke but the halo doesn't? The M3 until the beautiful V8 was always repackaged and reengineered, this is no different. BMW is most likely not going to participate with the M3 in racing (outside DTM) for sometime after this year so they have no homolgation issues..
I don't buy to 3.3 or V6 and my sources aren't telling me that. Is there a LOT of misinformation going on? Yes. Will this car debut in "concept" form sooner than later -YES. That is for certain.
You can also expect a recycled M5/M6 rear (they are reusing development like they did with the 1M). This will come to market in the EU first as BMWNA does not want to kill the brisk sales of the E92M3 but there will be a farewell tribute to come in a special edition- no you are not getting CRT seats 
Take all the engine garble with a grain of salt right now... there is another M product coming before this and several M Performance models so the info is being spilled in this manner to increase interest and promote dialog/confusion. I trust what I hear from certain people and I try to express what I hear as best I can without stepping on toes....
Way back machine M5 style 3/3/11 - I state 560 hp (although I hinted for a while) I am NOT trying to promote anything so don't Terms of Use ME.... I am just trying to establish some sources.
Official info came a month later on 4/4- car was shown at M Fest and a few other venues before the "official" launch.
I trust who feeds me info (most of the time) and they are not corroborating the V6 3.3l at this time. Can that change- sure but I doubt it. |
We can debate as long we want, until any official release we won't know 100 %. Apparently there are two sources, one could say the truth (V6), an other could hide it (I6), and again, one could talk BS (V6) just to get attention and be famous on the web, the other could know the real truth (I6) but have no proof and again one and an other could have a part of the truth and invent/speculate the rest.
What you said about 0.5 per cylinder completely wrong. It is the best compromise for sportiness (revs) and street usabilty (troque), but goes only for BMW AG cars and not BMW M cars. In fact the only M cars that have 0.5l per cylinder are the M3 E9X and M5/M6 E6X with their 4.0l V8 and 5.0l V10 and only the first generation M3 E36 before facelift with its 3.0l I6. If you want the 1 series M Coupé with its 3.0l I6, but it is not a true M engine, not because it is based on an AG engine, but because it is not really different and moddified. All other M cars had larger displacement engines, here the list just FYI:
M1 E26 / M5 E28 / M6 E224: 3.5l I6
M5 E34: 3.6-3.8l I6
M5 E39: 4.9l V8
M3 E30: 2.3l I4
M3 E36 / M3 E46 / Z3 M E36 / Z4 M E8X: 3.2l I6
M5 F10 / M6 F1X / X5/X6 M E7X: 4.4l V8