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      08-06-2022, 01:35 PM   #17
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Drives: F82-E92 M3-E46 M3-E30-S1K-330i
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Location: Bay Area, CA

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2004 X5  [9.00]
2006 325i  [10.00]
2021 S1000RR  [9.50]
2006 330i  [7.75]
1986 325e  [10.00]
2005 M3  [7.40]
2009 M3  [8.63]
2018 M4  [10.00]
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BMW need a 6MT G80/G82 Competition with the same output as the RWD auto cars. The fact 6MT is down on a power and huge on torque is an absolute joke. They made a 6MT while basically forcing everyone to choose the auto because the manuals are so down on power they can't even get past the prior generation of car.

God I hate this current generation of M3/M4.
its probably just a tune right ? i dont think the comp gets any hardware changes, they just up the boost pressure on the map.

but yeah this is part of BMWs strategy. neuter the manual car. then they can tell everyone 'nobody is buying them, lets axe it from the model lineup'. bmw doesn't have to spend money to develop two transmissions and 100% of their cars can run the zf8
The manual transmission was the reason the manual G8x was neutered and the base "Pure" variant was needed. It couldn't handle the extra power/torque of the CP model, so instead of upgrading the manual transmission, they neutered the engine and called the car "Pure."

Unwilling to spend $/effort to upgrade it, the manual transmission was essentially from the parts bin, a compromise, to keep the purest enthusiast happy. So if you tune it too much, you'll have to upgrade the manual transmission too or risk exceeding it's limit.
It's an interesting decision, in light of the fact that the F10 M5 had a manual transmission available that could handle higher horsepower and torque (at least 500 lb-ft I believe)
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