[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by kingikra

I expected a no, I don't know or no, there are no driving roads except the B500 but, WOW, was I wrong!!!

As usual you are so detailed and organized.

Thanks for the kind words. I am just trying to help a fellow car nut find his way around Germany.

I have checked your friends' recommendations and think that the following might be a good trip:
https://goo.gl/2ZgqQB

The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the above actually takes me on the best driving roads between these cities.

WoW! That really looks like a great road to drive. Lots of twisty sections and a good mix of roads.

I'll have the car for two days so in one of them I'll take it to the above and on the next one, again, to the great B500 although last time there was a bit traffic and it is very hard to bypass cars there.
I still have no idea which car will I have but it won't be a slow one for sure

I'm sure you will find yourself in something fun to drive!

Btw... a friend of mine might contact you via PM to meet up. He can show you around some nice roads or drive with you for the day. He drive's a M2.


The B500 Hochstraße, from Baden-Baden driving down to Baiersbronn is a cool road.
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Baden...6564!1m0?hl=en

But once you've driven it, it doesn't keep pulling me back like Stelvio or Sella Ronda(in Italy).


IF you do decide to drive down to Baden-Baden(B500) I would recommend you take a detour to the Fahrzeugmuseum Marxzell. This is one crazy mans obsession in collecting cool old cars and "stuff". The museum has now expand upstairs too!

Here is my writeup on the Marzell Museum.
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=790929

The Unimog Museum is also near by the Black Forest area...

Unimog Museum - the AWD German wonder machine...
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=819968

But my "tip" is to go visit theMarzell Museum. The roads in that area were quite nice too from what I recall.


Also IF you drive around Koblenz... there is a cool Military Museum that has real weapons that were used by the Germans for the past couple hundred years. Its kind of like the US Army's Aberdeen Ordnance & Weapons Museum in Aberdeen, Md.

WTS Military Museum - Koblenz, Germany
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498499

North of Koblenz is the famous Remagen Bridge that was all so important in WWII for the Allies to cross. Today its a small museum. Look on Google Maps for: "Ludendorff Bridge Brücke von Remagen".


Also in the Schwarzwald area is the Hasenhorn-Rodelbahn... in the Black Forrest(Schwarzwald) area. Its a luge ride down a mountain.



Hasenhorn Rodelbahn
Brandenbergstraße 3
79674 Todtnau

http://www.hasenhorn-rodelbahn.de/in...a8c24514821a1f


28 turns of fun!

I have also looked at Kiedrich but it seems like a very small area although the road seems good for driving.

Yep. Well.. I can't really comment since I have never been there.

Southern Bavaria roads will have to wait till April 2018 .

NOW we are talking!!

As usual, you are suggesting MUCH more then my time allows (rich people's problems) so I thank you very much for that but I'll have to stick with the above drive and the

Hahahaa.

You can't wait to see my pics from the visit?!?!?! What will I say?
For many years, now, that I really want to visit the Frankfurt's auto show.
BTW, I read that, this year, at least 9 car makers will not show up. Seems like that the ease and low prices of advertising today with the internet will, probably, harm the auto shows around the world.

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Yea... it's probably some of the Asian and Chinese markques that won't make it. Mitsubishi seems to be on its knees. There are other auto companies that just can't spend the money to come to Frankfurt IAA or Geneva.

The Frankfurt show is awesome but can be way over whelming. I can honestly say you need two or three days to see EVERYTHING there. Sure you can see all the major car companies... but there is just so much there to see.

My tip for anyone who wants to come to the Frankfurt show is... COME on the Friday(Trade Days) where you pay TWICE the normal going rate(once the show opens to the public its around 25 euros). The crowds will be light(like during the two press days(Weds & Thursday). I think it costs something like 50 euros to get in on that Friday - But it is well WORTH IT!! On Saturday the show opens to the general public for TEN days - and its a zoo!! The public days for the IAA this year are: September 14th to 24th, 2017. Of course the best way to see the IAA is coming on either press day. But coming on that

Friday is also very nice way to see the show. To give you an idea... on any of the normal public days there will be at least 100K people visiting the show. Just think about that! The show is about one mile by a half a mile in area. You can test drive cars and go off road driving too. Its really cool.

The Frankfurt Auto Show(IAA) website dates and prices...
http://www.iaa.de/en/tickets/dates/


This is what a "normal" public day looks like at the Frankfurt IAA...


Audi stand...


BMW's stand/building with an indoor test track inside!!



Also... the Frankfurt Auto Show(IAA) is only held on EVEN years. On odd years... there is the Paris Auto Show... which I have always wanted to visit - but I have not.

That all said... my favorite show is Geneva. It's big, but it's not the monster show that Frankfurt is. If you can make it to one of the Geneva shows - I would highly recommend it.


Since you will be in Frankfurt... you really should drop by Klassikstadt. It's a classic car storage place but there are also a few auto related shops inside along with the McLaren, Ferrari and Lambo(?) dealerships. Its free to visit and its a cool place to look around for a few hours.

Dackel’s tour of Klassikstadt: Frankfurt, Germany…
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=636805

take care,
Dackel