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I have them as my cool-cold season tires on my f80 and I am very happy with them. I have only had them on one season ~3k miles so far so no idea on longevity and such. I can still have some fun, they handle pretty well. Good enough for as hard as I feel pushing the car on public roads. I would hope/expect to get 30-35K out of them maybe based on other mich all season experience, Vs expected ~15-20k out of PSS/PS4
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