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      04-12-2014, 08:07 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by pb12
Helpful article, thanks for posting.

I would have like to know if there will be a sport pad for the CCB's like the one mentioned for the conventional brakes

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Doubtful. Most people with CCBs on other cars at the track run the stock pads because CCBs in general already have tons of bite and tons of fade resistance in stock form even when paired with slick tires, so there's no reason to upgrade. There are a few aftermarket options, but very few pads are designed to work on carbon ceramic rotors.

I remember talking to a ZR1 owner who has CCBs and runs slicks at the track. He said that his track costs work out to about $1000/day just looking at the tires, pads, and rotors. And that's despite the fact that GM charges quite a bit less for their CCB components compared to Porsche, Ferrari, and BMW even though the parts are essentially identical.

For people going to the track, a BBK should result in much lower running costs and identical or nearly identical fade resistance compared to CCB -- or maybe even the stock system will be ok this time around. You won't get the dust-free benefit of CCBs (surprised the engineer didn't mention that), but I'll put up with dust and a bit of extra weight to avoid paying over $3K per rotor, judging by the cost of CCB rotors for the M5/6 at Turner Motorsport. That's even more scary when you consider that if you even NICK a CC rotor, such as while removing or mounting a wheel (or by kicking up debris during an off-track excursion), you have to replace it -- not too surprised the engineer didn't mention THAT. That's why a lot of Porsche guys who buy used cars with CCBs and intend to track them will often retrofit steel brakes instead.

CCBs are still much more of a vanity option than a legitimate practical/performance option at this point. For road-only cars, you're paying upfront to basically never need a brake service and never have brake dust on your rims. For track cars, you're paying just to shed a few pounds of unsprung weight, because a good steel setup will get you everything else (even a good chunk of the weight savings if it uses aluminum calipers and hats) for less upfront cost, a fraction of the running costs, and none of the anxiety during wheel changes or off-track adventures.
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