06-24-2016, 08:05 AM | #1 |
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2016 Exhaust vs ZCP Exhaust
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com There's comparisons of 2015 vs non-ZCP 2016 exhausts and 2016 is louder. Question is, is it possible the ZCP exhaust note is the same as a 2016 or are there now 3 different exhaust notes..2015, 2016 & 2016 ZCP... |
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06-24-2016, 08:43 AM | #3 |
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The MY15 and MY16 exhausts sound identical beyond the less rattley valves. I've heard several in person as compared to my old MY15. No physical change to the exhausts themselves.
A lot of these comparisons were done with My16 exhausts that weren't broken-in as compared to My15 exhausts that were. This would reflect some minor differences between the two as well, but would be no different than a new MY15 compared to a broken-in MY15. |
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06-24-2016, 09:00 AM | #5 |
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Just fixing the valves. ZCP is louder/deeper than my non-ZCP F80 LCI. Side by side listening and it is noticeable.
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06-24-2016, 09:15 AM | #6 |
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Cool. Seems like the FY16 non-zcp vs FY15 non-zcp sounds a bit less raspy. So by extension the FY16 LCI should be deeper and sound closer to the ZCP minus the burbling. No?
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06-24-2016, 09:25 AM | #7 |
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Is the ZCP exhaust (the M "sport" exhaust not to be confused with the M Performance exahaust, which I was) available to purchase? i really dont wanna spend $5k on an exhaust.
i am leasing so its really between dinan and m perf exhaust for me and the dinan im not crazy about. thanks guys!
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06-24-2016, 09:50 AM | #9 |
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NO! Did you not read any of the posts thus far? There is no difference between MY15 and MY16 non-ZCP exhausts, sound-wise, with the exception of less rattley valves.
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06-24-2016, 10:15 AM | #10 |
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Exactly.
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06-24-2016, 10:29 AM | #11 |
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You can tell by his responses he's not reading the thread. The original question was answered twice in posts 2 and 3, then he asked the exact same question again. You answered it again, only for him to ask the same question a second time. Best to ignore people like that!
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06-24-2016, 10:55 AM | #12 |
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I have a '16 CP and the exhaust on it has about 1500 miles, it sounds much more different than when delivery day was. I can attest the CP definitely gets louder as it's broken in and it's a unique note as this is labeled the "M Sport Exhaust".
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06-24-2016, 11:31 AM | #14 |
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Guys - I don't question your wisdom or advocacy for the zcp...
Yes I have read the thread but I was asking because there have been many other threads and videos indicating there was a difference in sound (besides the valves fix) between the 2016 and 2015 non-ZCPs... Seems like your saying stuff as a matter of fact and to be honest I don't believe you |
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06-24-2016, 11:46 AM | #15 |
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This is Nick Murray's video - the exhaust differences are noted first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8-Xv2nNSo Is it just due to breaking in? |
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06-24-2016, 11:51 AM | #16 |
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If there is a difference between the '15 and non-zcp '16, it would be insignificant and incomparable to the delta between the non-zcp and zcp due to the software tuned burbles/pops/crackles.
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Comparing a 2016 to a 2016 ZCP is a bit pointless - they are different, and I believe this has been done many times and it is not what the OP is asking. He's asking if there's a difference between the 15 and 16 non-ZCP, and from Nick's video there is a difference. But from all the rants in here, they are adamant there were no changes. No possibility BMW would change the baffling inside a muffler without giving it a new part number? |
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I've personally heard a 2015 vs. 2016 non-ZCP. Both of which had more than a few thousand miles and they sounded identical. |
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Secondly, it could come down to how, like I've stated, the ECU is controlling the valves and also possible the way the MY16 with a newer I-step is controlling the electronic wastegates too, particularly during a free rev. EWG's in the full open position will create lots of rasp as compared to a partially closed EWG. There is a lot going on and a lot of variables. The MY15 and MY16 cars were very close in mileage and production dates. They sounded identical in person. I have no idea what I-step firmware they both had. If the MY15 is significantly older than the My16, there could be some real differences in the firmware. |
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So you're absolutely certain there's no way the internals of the exhaust could have changed without a different part number? Is that just not something they would or could ever do or is it possible? |
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