07-09-2012, 10:50 PM | #2 |
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push that motor and you will see 12mpg average. there is no miracle. 22mpg, its a hwy figure with cruize control set to 100km/h
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07-10-2012, 07:25 PM | #3 |
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Primarily through direct injection, would be my guess. But that 4.2L direct-injected V8 has been causing reliability problems for Audi owners, I believe.
Also, I don't believe fuel consumption should be a consideration when buying an M car. If you're worried about economy, there are other cars that will suit your needs better.
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07-10-2012, 10:26 PM | #4 |
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Fuel consumption is not a major consideration for many when buying an M car.
But as BMW moves towards the direction of TC + Lesser Cylinders to comply with fuel economy and emission standards, 6 or 8 cyclinder NAs are history in the new production cars. They should have made it even more fuel efficient in the first place before replacing them with turbo 4s and 6s. |
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07-11-2012, 09:02 AM | #5 |
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I don't care so much about fuel economy except I don't want to have a sub 200-mile range. Nor do I want a 25-gallon tank to get me 300 miles (because of the weight penalty).
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07-11-2012, 09:03 AM | #6 |
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Why is fuel economy not a concern? I'd own an F80 M3 it wasn't for the miserable mileage. I just can't justify something that inefficient for a daily driver.
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07-11-2012, 12:27 PM | #7 |
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The B8 generation of Audi products are nearing the end of their lifespan and with them the 4.2L FSI is as well (except for possibly the next R8, though even that I somewhat doubt).
The next generation RS4 and RS5 may or may not move to a 6 cylinder engine - we don't know yet. But they will, with near certainty, not be powered by a naturally aspirated engine. |
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07-11-2012, 07:43 PM | #8 |
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yea for real, i really cant stand it when someone blasts the old clichet at someone " You dont buy an M car and worry about gas consumption stupid!" Well, maybe without the "stupid" but you get what i'm saying. Everyone has different concerns when purchasing a car M or Z or F. Wouldnt you take an M3 w/similar performance that is nicer to your wallet??? If you say no your just lying lol.
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Those of us arguing against chasing fuel efficiency are only against it because you usually end up sacrificing the things we care more about. I saw the new M6 at my local dealer the other day and heard it rev and, when someone else test drove it, heard it fly by me and it sounds ok but it wasn't very exciting. The first time I heard an S85 V10 I wanted nothing more than to get behind the wheel and drive it but the new M6 didn't have that effect on me. I wasn't very interested in it at all, the performance numbers are hugely impressive but personally I would rather buy an M6 with the 5.5L V10 with 575 horsepower they were supposedly working on than one with the TTV8 even if the V8 gets me further on a tank of gas. Simply put, for me and for a lot of other enthusiasts the added excitement of a screaming N/A engine outweighs the minor inconvenience of spending a bit more time and money at the pump. |
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If the M3 got say 26 or so on the hwy or even 28, the CPO sales would go through the roof. Now you have a sweet car that can actually be used on the daily commute to work. |
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For those wanting NA engines, the next M3/M4 will not be for them. The Porsche 911 Carrera S (991) powered by a NA 3.8 H6 and the next Lexus IS-F (Mk3) powered by a NA 5.0 V8 may.
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To the OP- The gearing and DI are what gave that Audi motor that suspect MPG- M did not go DI with the high rev engines bc of issues with carbon build up and longevity- they also used close ratio gearing which is ridiculous considering there is NO track you ever would use a short sixth on ( you can occasionally hit 5th for a brief time but that is it on the longest of straights), moving forward I bet they change this thinking and make 6th taller and get that extra few MPG as there is no other reason for it.
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I applaud Audi for staying with an NA engine for the RS5. Real shame BMW is not doing the same with their latest and upcoming M products. |
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BMW is putting their 3L engine in a lot of cars, under a lot of variants. 135i, 335i, 535i, X3 35i, M135i, M340i, M3, M4, 335is, Z4 35is, 1M etc ... |
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Bingo- but its more than cash, they have not developed a turbo to replace it in a timely manner. Let's not forget that Audi RS models were always turbo then they more recently used this engine across models to compete with naturally aspirated offerings from BMW and MB bc the turbo RS models were always viewed as lesser cars for being turbo. Now Audi is going to react once more and go FI again.
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