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991's (.1 and .2) are smaller, lighter, and sportier than the F80, and better in most ways, but they still felt "familiar" to me, as in the next logical progression through the BMW line up. Take an M3 and make everything 25% better, and you have a Carrera S. Whereas the M3's ride and handling is compromised by being a large-ish sedan, the 911's ride and handling is compromised by the heavy rear weight bias and less than ideal polar moment. Both cars make up for it in spades, but . . . The Cayman has no such compromise. It's mid engine balance is a revelation compared to the M3 and offers a much different driving experience compared to either car. While the 911 is responsive and linear and well balanced, the cayman is all those things, but also light, effortless and telepathic. The M3 is a sports sedan, The Cayman is a true sports car. The 911 is like if they had a baby and it got the good genes from both parents. The rumored return of the flat 6 to the non-GT4 cayman is what I'm waiting for. That car should be a blast to drive. Incidentally, I drove a 987 cayman last year and even though it was a bit old and felt it's age, it still had that same fantastic balance that the 718S I drove last week had. For $60k, you'll be able to get a very nice 981 S, which will check all your boxes perfectly. Forget about cars like the STi. I've driven an STi, EVO 10, and Golf R recently. Coming from an M3, they felt like a serious downgrade. The R didn't feel anything like a sporty car. The STi felt like a child's idea of a sports car was. The EVO was actually surprisingly good to drive, but was basically like a cost cut F80, and offers no real benefit. I doubt that even an M2 will scratch the itch you have for something different. Corvettes aren't light, and they aren't nimble. Awesome cars, but they don't really tick your boxes. Drive a Cayman.
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There's a sub 3000lb with driver, 500whp c5z for sale for $14k here in Norcal (owner is the previous owner of my SM, and wins his TT class regularly). I think you'd have to really want a porsche to buy one over a vette from a straight up performance per dollar standpoint I admit, I too am a sucker for brand, and that's why I have an old 911 and not an old vette, but I'm changing my thinking |
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Keep an eye out for 987.2 cayman R as well(or S). Cant go wrong with either (987.2 or 981), but compared to the 981, 987.2 has better steering feel(hydraulic vs. electric), Brake pads are easier/quicker to change, cheaper body work/repairs/replacement parts(981 is all aluminum$$$$). Motors are similar and both are reliable. Overall weight is also similar. I prefer manual track cars, but pdk is also great and available.
The 987.2 Cayman R is a very good track car out of the box. Upgrade the brake fluid, brake pads, add gt3 front control arms for more neg camber.. For safety add seats, harness, harness/roll bar and you are good to go. 981 gt4's have been coming down slightly but are still mostly in the $80-90k range. The may dip a little more once 718 gt4's start getting delivered. z4m coupe is another great choice as mentioned. Also cant go wrong with a track prepped e46m. |
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987/981 Cayman and ND2 Miata are both strong recommendations.
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Can't blame you for liking the 981, it's also high on my list. Love the sound of those flat sixes.
It's been recommended a few times already, but if you haven't driven an ND2 Miata, go drive one. It's not for everyone, but you may just get surprised... |
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C8 Vette! It will outperform everything up to twice its price or more.
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As for the sounds, i think the supposed flat plane crank V8 with similar firing order as F-cars rumored for c8z06 should be pretty great. Unfortunately, 4cyl cars tend to lag in sound department, unless they are of the super high RPM varietal (in my opinion anyway) |
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Why? There are myriad dealers committing to MSRP.
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Get a low mileage S2000 (25k-30k) and take it to LHT Performance( +10k) for the SC package. That is reliable 400+whp... hopefully you're not a big guy... otherwise this is the answer.
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Evora 400.... Amazing car for the price!
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The wailing of Porsche flat 6s at high rpm is intoxicating. The issue with the 981s is that with the tall gearing of the manual transmission it's hard to rev the engine and stay within legal limits on the street. The redline speed in second gear (981S) is over 80mph! Would be great on the track though. |
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I have never driven it, but Matt Farah from the smoking tire is a hbig advocate for the Lotus Evora 400/410. He has made multiple vids and it all seems like it is still an analog experience. Also DD'able and not as common as Porsche.
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One of my friends just sold his 991.1 RS and replaced it with a C8 in order. He wanted a car he could feel good about hammering on, versus he was trying to keep the RS “mint” as an “investment”.
Msrp deal, 6 months wait. Not sure why it’s so unbelievable to get a c8 for msrp. Maybe it’s harder if you want the very first one? |
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Supra - once the price levels out.
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Ariel Atom 3... (mike drop)
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