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I would agree with you. The route shown above is through the flat countryside of southern Bavaria. Your route appears to get up in to the Alps (at least the foothills).
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Probably already been said, but as a semi-local, I'd say the top stuff for Munich would be:
1. Augustiner Keller 2. Deutsches Museum 3. Deutsches Museum flight extension (flugwerft) in Oberschleissheim. Some cool planes there. 4. Shopping in Stachus (downtown) 5. Dachau KZ (Dachau is also a town, the KZ is the camp). Outside of the camp there is also WWII architecture, SS barracks (to the NW I think) and an old SS range that has some history to it. 6. Visit Nymphenburg palace 7. Visit the Viktualienmarkt, its off Frauen strasse. Some cool foods there. Pickled little pumpkins with cream cheese in them are my favorite to get there. Also have canned and jarred stuff to bring home. 8. BMW / Mueseum / Tours / Olympia Tower, etc. That can all be done on one day. |
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Speaking of Alpine routes, will there be an issue to drive from Stuttgart to Geneva and then east bound toward Austria in April ?
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The old SS firing range I would say has some very sinister history to it from what I recall.....
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If you're going to be in Munich sometime between April 15 and May 1st, check out Fruhlingsfest (Spring Festival). It's held at the same place as Oktoberfest, at Theresienwiese. It's done to a smaller scale than Oktoberfest, but it's very much worth checking out, especially to get inside one of the tents for a liter of beer and some food.
https://www.facebook.com/events/488906934593941/
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Have you thought about driving some passes while in Switzerland ? Maybe a route something like this... https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Stutt...1981!3e0?hl=en These are my two all time favorite passes... Klausenpass, Spiringen, Switzerland and... Furka Pass, Obergoms, Switzerland I would stay here, near the start of the Furka Pass... Hotel Glocke (located in the Goms valley, a small but charming hotel) Hotel Glocke Engelmatt 6 3998 Reckingen VS, Switzerland www.glocke.ch You can see pics of the hotel and of my Alpine adventure driving tour here... Dackel's Swiss Alpine tour... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=878216 Flüela Pass, Susch, Switzerland - is also another nice pass to drive. More flat than a curvy high alpine pass - but fun never the less. It runs into Davos. Most of these passes should be open - depending on the winter snow fall. But the best plan is to check the local Pass's websites - to make sure they are open for driving!! Btw... the Furka Pass was made famous in the James Bond film: Golden Eye... also the large hotel shown in the opening scene(Grand Hotel Glacier du Rhône) is still there and makes for a nice "coffee" or lunch stop. Dackel
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Hope you have a great time !
It's hard to know how to respond to these posts as you never know if people want the "tourist response" or the "drivers response"... See the sights or drive the roads... Sometimes they can be combined, but often times they are mutually exclusive. We went for maximum seat time, as I noted in my ED journal. One thing I will definitely do every time I go back (since I am really into food/restaurants) is eat at Schloss Schauenstein, which is relatively close to the whole Furka/Grimsel area. I cannot recommend it highly enough. People come from all over the world to eat at this place, and the experience was one of many highlights of my trip. That's my little contribution to this thread :P Schloss Schauenstein Contrary to someone else's post, I find the "high end" restaurants in Munich to be rather mediocre, compared to other places. I wouldn't waste time and money on those. I would/will spend time at Augustiner Keller again, just hanging out and chatting, drinking beer and eating basic food (which I thought was good). That's really what Munich does best: comfort food and beer.
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All true on the observation that there are dozens of local beer gardens where you will find more locals. Alas, my German is minimal, and hanging out with other tourists and English speakers at H-hause was the best part of eating there. I ran into a troupe of British theater actors one night, and we had a ball comparing notes on local German customs, culture, and behavior patterns. Quote:
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Granted, I loved Augustiner-Keller far more than Hofbrauhaus.....just because it "felt" a little more like a local hangout and the beer was better. Pretzels not as good though! But there was a huge tourist contingent there as well. We had 2 German "fine dining" experiences while in Germany. One was at Alpenrose am See in Hohenschwangau/Neuschwanstein....again, German comfort food but with a finer dining flair. The wienerschnitzel was ridiculous. The other place was at a fantastic restaurant inside of the Hotel Die Hirschgasse Heidelberg. I much prefer a nice relaxing, traditional place with the comfort food, pretzels and beer.....
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Like I said, I don't plan on doing any ED without visiting Schauenstein (every time); and I don't say that lightly
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Schloss Schauenstein From their website lunch and dinner (per person) 3 courses CHF 198.00 4 courses CHF 219.00 5 courses CHF 235.00 6 courses CHF 259.00 |
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There is no comparison between this place, and eating in Munich for half the price. The latter being a waste of money, now that I see the chasm of difference between the two experiences. But yea, I wouldn't recommend it if you weren't into these experiences or weren't planning on spending half that much eating out in Munich.
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regardless i check my reservation my hotel Belagio for 4 nights and figured if we cancel one night there it could equal close to one night and a meal at Schloss Schauenstein. Since we will be driving right past it from Konstanz to Bellagio I emailed to see if they have availability for a room and dinner reservation on the 26th of May. If they do then might as well give it a shot. Ill be honest one of the main things selling me at this point is that they have a cigar lounge. Seems like it could be a great all around experience. If we do go there we will be arriving mid day. Any suggestions of what we can do in the area from 12 noon until dinner time taking into consideration it will be end of May? Will they laugh at me seeking a reservation with two months notice? They arent going to come back asking me which year I mean are they? |
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I think I made the resi 4-5 weeks in advance, and they were extremely accommodating about everything. I don't recall having a problem, but I don't know how 'seasonal' it is (we went in October). I'm not sure if they book up way in advance?
The hotel people typically stay at (since the castle hotel is obscenely expensive) is Hotel Weiss Kreuz in Thusis, from which they picked up and dropped us off free of charge. The hotel is clean, well run, but no frills. I think we got it for $120? Again, may be seasonal pricing. Their smoking room was simply phenomenal (cigar room). Again, it's more like an entire castle chamber, decorated ornately and painted in red, with lavish furnishings, and a crackling fire. And you pretty much have it all to yourself, perhaps for maybe a couple other people. My wife would have killed me had I smoked a cigar there, but I went in multiple times just to see it, because it was so beautifully done. Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing to do in the immediate area, as far as I can tell. What we did, was drive Furka/Grimsel/Susten earlier in the day. The actual way we did it was leave Thusis at 8/9 am, drive the passes (including Oberalpen) and then drive back for dinner. So in that sense, there is stuff to do, but it's not in the immediate vicinity. Instead of arriving at noon, I would drive to one of the passes that isn't too far away, and do that until dinner. edit- Thusis or Furnstenau to Andermatt via the Oberalpen pass is 2 hours one way on google maps, so if you arrive at noon, that is plenty of time to drive that pass and back. Andermatt is a pretty cute town that might be nice to grab lunch in anyway. edit 2- I'm pretty sure they had free "all you can drink" house made brandy at the very end of the night with your little complimentary chocolates and pastries in the greeting/departure room (picture below), where you could hang out and get blasted if you hadn't had enough to drink by this stage ;P Of course, it's night time when you are there so the lighting is softer and warmer.
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Awesome. When you say the castle is obscenely expensive am I looking at the right thing? Theirs say 370 CHF which is about 370 USD (470 CDN)...certainly on the expensive side but no where near what I have seen other hotels (not even the top of the line) go for in various cities around europe. Is this what you were quoted because I assume Oct rates would be similar to May rates given both a shoulder seasons.
http://www.schauenstein.ch/guestrooms/room-wasser All you can drink brandy?! This place is starting to sound better and better. I have to ask. Why is your wife allowed to decide if you can smoke a cigar or not? Unless you have lung cancer? I remember I was drinking a 2L Boot of beer at the Waldhaus in Banff in front of a fire with my wife next to me. A man came over and asked if he could take a picture of my beer. I asked why he didnt just order one for himself and he said "my wife wont let me". I felt very bad for him ;( |
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I like your meal and beverage (re: size) ! Hah. We would have got along swimmingly in Munich Very good question about the cigar room, tho. Not sure how it worked out that way Yea, I think since we were booking about 3-4 weeks in advance, the only things left were the $660/night rooms, which I was not about to pay if I could get a perfectly reasonable room for $120. Don't quote me on the brandy tho, I believe that was the case, but I had drunk quite a bit up to that point so I might be mixing up restaurants Pretty sure I do remember him bringing the brandy bottle over when we were relaxing in the lounging room after dinner. In any case, if you do go, please post up your ED journal and let me know this place was
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The hotel is on the main (or only) street in Thussis, and you turn into the alley immediately beside the hotel and go behind it to the hotel parking lot. The lot is linear, but the spaces are generally pretty reasonable. Since this is the hotel most of the guests for the restaurant stay at, there are some nice cars there so I wasn't too worried. Here is a picture of the spot we parked in, and my parking spot neighbor. Pretty satisfactory. Just make sure you tell the hotel that you are eating at the restaurant so they can arrange for the A7 black car to come get you at a specific time. Don't be afraid to show up too early... hanging out in the 'greeting chamber' (pictured earlier) and drinking/chatting was really quite nice.
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