06-18-2014, 01:37 PM | #243 |
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Well, cut the crap and lets talk about this......
http://www.autogespot.nl/porsche-cay...014/06/17#img1 Damn, what a car, that being said as a Bimmer "fanboy" Mine is to be expected august 2nd-3th week.........yessssssss |
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06-18-2014, 02:08 PM | #244 | |
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06-18-2014, 04:27 PM | #245 |
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Good looking Cayman!
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06-18-2014, 07:25 PM | #246 | |
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Very nice! Same color as mine and it looks 98% identical. Are you sure you aren't coming off with these "classic traits"? Seems you have been the most off base here labeling people that aren't. Just sayin. Since you disregarded just about everything I said. |
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06-18-2014, 07:30 PM | #247 | |
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Don't be so sensitive, Porsches and BMW's are both good cars. No need to start a pissing contest to justify paying the same for a car that is slower, less practical and not as good looking. Be secure in your decision even though you've never driven an M4. |
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06-18-2014, 11:38 PM | #250 | |
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Also has nothing to do with insecurity on my part. I have both brands and have had many M cars. But I have caught onto your forum technique. It involves jumping in with weak wit and generalizations. What was it you used in this thread? Confirmation bias, fanboy-ism, sensitivity, insecurity, etc? Did you really have to start a pissing contest to discuss the topic at hand? I mean we were discussing the M4 vs Cayman, then you came along and wondered why. Lol |
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06-19-2014, 10:03 AM | #252 | |
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You are very defensive... This is a BMW forum, yes? Agreed the thread is discussing the M4 vs. Cayman GTS and I personally think both cars (on paper and from reviews) seem pretty amazing, and I was on the fence between them before making my decision. I admittedly inquired aloud about why a number of people seemed so unequivocal that the Porsche was better, when none had actually driven an M4--and this is a very logical query I might add. I do find it interesting and highly amusing that the fanboy comment I made (and I did not specifically call anyone that, btw) ruffled so many feathers. You have to ask yourself why you would be so defensive and why you would find that comment so audacious if there was not some truth to that characterization... Perhaps the term "Brand inclined enthusiast" would be a more palatable euphemism for you? Indeed, there are fanboys out there, and that's a pretty innocuous term. If you're certain the Porsche Cayman GTS is the better car (for whatever reason(s)), good for you! I don't care, and I'm not loyal in the slightest to either brand, having owned and driven both. But I will point out groundless assertions (for example driving dynamics, purist driving feel comments, etc.) as I see them. In any case, relax. You'll live longer.
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06-19-2014, 01:38 PM | #253 | |
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Predictable response. Still trying to explain your insults and broad accusations and lacing it all in terms of calming down and relaxing. Wash rinse repeat. Yawn. How's that for relaxing? Didn't even require 6 paragraphs. At any rate, the thread goes on. |
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06-19-2014, 01:59 PM | #254 | |
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Thanks, but thats not my car Mine will be Sapphire Blue, PCCB with the yellow calipers, this pops even more The grey in Porker speak; Agate Grey |
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06-21-2014, 07:11 PM | #257 |
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Cayman S hands down for me brings a much larger smile to my face when I drive it compared to the m4. But it's not really a fair comparison in my eyes. If you want a sports car get the cayman if you want a four seater get the m3. M4 backseats are worthless for anyone over 5'.
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however, you could say that for the 911, only you have to replace 5' with 3'. |
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07-04-2014, 09:23 AM | #261 |
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As the story goes, these are the 2 cars I am contemplating. I have been fortunate enough to have test driven a very high spec M4 and just had a beautiful black/black come available although without the manual gearbox that I would prefer. My thoughts are these, is the M4 probably the better daily driver because of day to day engine characteristics, torque, etc?? I see a significant weight difference between both cars and a power to weight ratio that is splitting hairs between the two, cant help but think the M4 maybe the more FUN car to drive. Again, I have yet to drive the Cayman GTS nor do I truly need a back seat. However, looking at how I particularly drive, and the lack of cool roads to explore based on where I live, I'm beginning to lean towards the M4. I am curious on how long this thread has become, what are the thoughts out there on strictly comparing the 2 cars based on fun to drive, etc. Opinions would be very appreciated
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07-04-2014, 10:22 AM | #262 |
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Yes, Mr Sparko, "Fun to Drive", is the Heart of the decision. Fwiw- I started, months ago, with two M4's on order, DCT & 6 spd. Took a 6spd Cayman S for a spin, along w a 991 S DCT. The 6spd Cayman was FUN! Ordered one.
The DCT M4 arrived, took it for a spin, WOW, a gregarious launch platform!! For me, the torque was way fun, but the DCT was interesting, but, didn't add to the fun, like the 6spd. Then I started to ponder how to add some of that power fun, with the Porsche fun, and add a bit of back seat for my pooch, easy storage, or an occasional emergency passenger. So I drove a 991 4S 7spd (might as well add some winter capability). Nice, very fun car! So far, I can't sign up for expensive options on the Porsche, so, I'm ready to order a C4S 7 Spd stripper, triple black, and very excited about it. But now, I know, that when the 6pd M4 arrives, I'll be driving and pondering a rocket ship full of awesome tech w the fun of a 6 spd!, against a wicked fun awd legend that is a bit more gorgeous! I don't know know what will happen for me, I suggest test rides for you. Enjoy the process! And post, ->"Details at Eleven" |
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07-04-2014, 10:23 AM | #263 |
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No GTS has been delivered yet, so it is hard to provide meaningful opinion comparative to M4. The 981 platform is really superb for daily driving, the chassis and engine are at a very mature state at this time, there is very few, if any, negatives I can think about. F8x platform is still an unknown, long ways to go before it will reach maturity. So, IMHO, it really comes down to mostly subjective selection criteria about design, practicality, desirability, branding, affordability, etc.
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07-04-2014, 11:02 AM | #264 |
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The main reason not buying an M4 for me is merely its size.
It is too bulky, clunky to me (with all due respect for other opinions) No doubt being a great daily driver, fast as no M3-4 before, more HP and torque then ever. Now that is exactly why I`m keeping the 1M, and bought a GTS as a companion. Size, weight, that is what determines real driving fun, not sheer HP IMHO; Look at this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...&v=N9Gev8G9o5Y In no way I`m suggesting the Bimmer is a lesser car then the Porker, both great, great cars, the very best in German engineering, but with a different focus. Well, now I have both |
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