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Your comments about the GT350 and your history with it basically stopped me from looking into the car much. Thanks for saving me the headache.
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Sounds like tons of fun..pics?
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10-12-2019, 10:33 AM | #27 |
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I dealt with my e60 m5 drinking a liter of oil every 1k miles and it was still worth it. Enjoy it and I bet it sounds amazing!
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I think the m3 is the best all arounder too. But it just depends on your situation. I don't think I could own a mustang or camaro for the simple fact that they are not on the M3 level of luxury and refinement and I wouldn't do a 'look back'... I see mustangs every day and there is nothing about the GT350 that looks drastically different aside from the bumpers and hood.
they are all compromise cars though. They are built off of 'lesser' platforms sold to the masses. then Shelby or the M division step in to try and make it better with what they have to work with. The American cars lean more towards performance and the M cars lean more towards refinement and luxury. No wrong answer. if you want a sports car get a sports car. don't get a compromised package. 2 seater, light weight, manual or dct, engine behind you preferably.
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Who wouldn't want a GT3 RS in the garage for the weekends and something like an Audi SQ5 as a daily and bad weather.
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11-08-2019, 05:11 AM | #31 |
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Is this new M3 disappoints me I am leaning towards a new GT350 and then upgrading my 2015 GTI to a new one as well. The reliability issues of the GT350 don't scare me. That's what owning older out of warranty M cars will do to a man.
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Picture of Ford Shelby Mustang GT350 Ford Shelby Mustang GT350 Naturally Aspirated Flat Plane V8 533 ps (526 bhp) 582 Nm (429 lb-ft) 1717 kg (3785 lbs) 310 ps / tonne Picture of BMW M3 Competition (F80) BMW M3 Competition (F80) Straight-six turbo, 450 ps (444 bhp) 550 Nm (406 lb-ft) 1632 kg (3598 lbs) 276 ps / tonne Lap Times 1 Shelby Mustang GT350 M3 Competition Chuckwalla Valley Raceway 2:00.82 2:00.61 Performance Shelby Mustang GT350 M3 Competition Kerb weight Top speed 280 kph (174 mph) 280 kph (174 mph) 0 - 50 kph 2.1 s 1.7 s 0 - 100 kph 4.6 s 4.0 s 0 - 130 kph 6.7 s 5.9 s 0 - 160 kph 9.3 s 8.5 s 0 - 180 kph 12.4 s 10.9 s 0 - 200 kph 14.1 s 13.2 s 0 - 60 mph 4.0 s 4.0 s Est. 1/8 mile 8.9 s @ 92.6 mph 8.3 s @ 96.9 mph 1/4 mile 12.3 s @ 117.0 mph 12.2 s @ 120.0 mph 60 - 100 kph (4) 4.9 s 3.4 s 60 - 100 kph (5) 6.7 s 5.1 s 80 - 120 kph (5) 6.4 s 4.4 s 80 - 120 kph (6) 13.8 s 6.0 s Est. 100 - 200 kph 9.8 s 9.2 s Est. 0 - 100 mph - 0 15.0 s @ 1191 ft 13.0 s @ 1017 ft Est. max acceleration 0.64 g (6 m/s²) 0.70 g (7 m/s²) 100 kph - 0 33 m (110 ft) 32 m (106 ft) 200 kph - 0 130 m (427 ft) 131 m (431 ft) Fuel economy 14.9 l/100 km (16 mpg US / 19 mpg UK) 11.8 l/100 km (20 mpg US / 24 mpg UK) Lateral acceleration 1.04 g (10 m/s²) 0.98 g (10 m/s²) Summary Shelby Mustang GT350 M3 Competition Track Performance 99 100 Straight line speed 1685 2239 Total 1784 2339 Verdict M3 Competition is the fastest by considerable margin. This comparison has been viewed 8 times. More acceleration data at dragrace.me Both great cars - tiebreaker is which one you subjectively prefer... |
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Unless the M3/4 has CCBs (or race pads/BBK etc) the GT350 will have a big advantage when it comes to brakes. They bite harder/stop quicker and will not fade like the stock M3/4s will after a few hard laps. |
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I have an e92 M3 6 MT which is my 4 seasons car plus 5-6 track days, contemplating to move on and considering GT350 vs F82 M4 - I'm sure GT350 will be more satisfying on the track but for year around daily driving... it feels too wide and tramlines in less than perfect roads. Since you have experienced both cars, could you provide feedback focusing on which is more fun daily driving (75 mi daily round trip commute) Thanks Enjoy your GT350, it's definitely last of a kind! |
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From my experience, this F80 is a rocket, fun on the public road, and a decent DD. It's just stupid fast and looks awesome. I don't think it's a fun car at all at the track. I took my F80 a few times to NJMP and multiple autocross events but it's really not fun at all. i think GT350 is in a different league. E90 M3 has character and fun, sadly not F80. Op enjoy your GT350! Dont listen to the fanboys here.
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we are getting here in aus a mustang gt with a ford performance based supercharger kit rated to 700hp
https://www.ford.com.au/performance/mustang-rspec/ it's no flat plane gt350 but it's a high spec mechanical package and very unique here for the money (same money as a new m2c). i was keen on paper until i went to the local ford dealer problem is the rest of the car is just crap, interior quality and even build is woeful, and we get an export spec which supposedly has higher quality trim - instead of slabs of plastic over the console and dash, they wrap it with the most dreadful vinyl you'd really need to want that drivetrain to live with the rest of the car to keep it beyond the new car novelty wearing off we also get the camaro zl1, rebuilt RHD locally, and that is much higher quality/refinded car in the drivetrain/chassis, but it's just too expensive here to sell in the numbers it deserves, about another half again on top of mustang 700hp Last edited by domino_z; 11-17-2019 at 06:29 PM.. |
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You have to spend seat time in both cars to truly know. The F chassis , shock damping , traction/stability control software, brakes are all sub-par for 10/10th driving. Even in its purest form, GTS, it is barely above the SS 1LE. The mustang does indeed have crappy fit/finish though. However from a performance drivers car perspective and for that "feel" that a spreadsheet does not convey, I would take both the GT350 or SS 1LE every day of the week and twice on Sunday over a Comp. M4. The F chassis just does NOT convey confidence. It's a great 7/10th car, but a poor 9/10th car, unless you get off on feeling like you are on the ragged edge, it's just not well sorted from a chassis, damping, and traction standpoint. BMW went straight muscle car mentality with the F chassis.... give it a lot of power and low end TQ and the hell with the rest.
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I'd like to another MK7 gti as a daily to replace my 06 Gti daily. Mustang is a great car but I want more luxury and 4 doors. Congrats OP |
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I understand your opinions as stated above - and while I haven't driven the GT350 or SS 1LE on the track myself - my experience at track days shows similar lap times for all three cars assuming roughly equally-experienced drivers. (Hint - my post was also based upon my own HPDE on-track experiences - and your account of how unpredictable and Unsorted the F8x is is contrary to mine and many others' experiences on track as reported on this forum). Grossly exaggerating subjective opinions is actually far dumber than citing objective stats for a limited purpose - especially when those grossly exaggerated opinions are by no means shared by all (see Minn19's posts above by example - who appears to have given a very unbiased comparison of the GT350 vs the F8x). |
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Congrats on the new car! Had a go recently in a GT350R and its such an amazing car. I know the F80 is not too far off the pace in a straight line but everything just feels more visceral. Maybe its the sound or maybe its just the manual shifts (coming form a DCT).
There's definitely an argument for getting either over the other but it seems like you found what works for you!
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I also had E92 M3 6MT before my M4. I honestly never warmed up to M4 like I did to M3. M4 was way more capable and better daily but was never as fun and involving as M3. Btw M4 was not my daily driver, I daily e90 330xi and have JL Jeep Rubicon, so sole purpose of M4 was to be a fun car. IMO you’d have more fun in GT350, no question. M4 Is more “friendly” car though, does not tramline, feels (and is) more luxurious, quieter and drives under radar. I prefer magna ride in GT350 over M4 adaptive suspension and I think it’s more comfortable for daily driving. I’d suggest driving them back to back few times if possible and see how you feel. |
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