Meet the new M4 enemy - official Mercedes C63 AMG

Knicks_fan2 · 10-03-2014, 10:13 AM

Looks awesome.

bimmerj · 10-03-2014, 10:36 AM

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What is that roof? Cf? Glass? Gloss black paint?

Most likely glass.

ybbiz34 · 10-03-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyPowers

What is that roof? Cf? Glass? Gloss black paint?

Most likely glass.

+1

Optional panoramic roof.

laflame · 10-03-2014, 03:27 PM

Anyone know if the Mercedes gearbox has been improved at all? Or are the shifts still going to have a lag

ybbiz34 · 10-03-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by laflame

Anyone know if the Mercedes gearbox has been improved at all? Or are the shifts still going to have a lag

It will have a new version of the MCT transmission with new software. Old unit produced 100-millisecond shifts.

Some photos tweeted by Chris Harris below. He seemed impressed with the gauges and the seats.

bimmerj · 10-03-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

It will have a new version of the MCT transmission with new software. Old unit produced 100-millisecond shifts.

Some photos tweeted by Chris Harris below. He seemed impressed with the gauges and the seats.

From CH tweet:

"The C63 is twatting fast, doesn't have a pussy in-line six like that nancy BMW" That's what the man from AMG didn't say. (But wanted to)

I found this funny

ybbiz34 · 10-03-2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerj

"The C63 is twatting fast, doesn't have a pussy in-line six like that nancy BMW" That's what the man from AMG didn't say. (But wanted to)
I found this funny

I saw that too haha. And just so no one mistakenly thinks that those were your fighting words, that line was from Chris Harris himself.

Chris Harris is very fond the new M3/M4. He also thoroughly enjoyed the W204 C63 and loved what he experienced during his AMG GT ride-along with Tobias Moers.

His sense of humor about the rivalry is something we should all take a lesson from. Clearly we can enjoy both of these amazing competitors; they're both incredible performers (and good looking inside and out to boot). Each car has its own strengths and weaknesses (though I happen to think that the weaknesses are minor and few and far between).

I think it will be impossible to say that one car is "better" than the other. The C63 will likely be faster in a straight line (historically that has been the case) but the M3/M4 will shine on shorter, more technical tracks whereas the C63 will have the edge on longer, faster circuits (e.g., the Nurburgring/Nordschleife).

bimmerj · 10-03-2014, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I saw that too haha. And just so no one mistakenly thinks that those were your fighting words, that line was from Chris Harris himself.

Chris Harris is very fond the new M3/M4. He also thoroughly enjoyed the W204 C63 and loved what he experienced during his AMG GT ride-along with Tobias Moers.

His sense of humor about the rivalry is something we should all take a lesson from. Clearly we can enjoy both of these amazing competitors; they're both incredible performers (and good looking inside and out to boot). Each car has its own strengths and weaknesses (though I happen to think that the weaknesses are minor and few and far between).

I think it will be impossible to say that one car is "better" than the other. The C63 will likely be faster in a straight line (historically that has been the case) but the M3/M4 will shine on shorter, more technical tracks whereas the C63 will have the edge on longer, faster circuits (e.g., the Nurburgring/Nordschleife).

Fixed.

gthal · 10-03-2014, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by laflame

Anyone know if the Mercedes gearbox has been improved at all? Or are the shifts still going to have a lag

I hope so... it wasn't the upshifts that were slow (they were very crisp), it was the downshifts. There was a lag in aggressive downshifting and multiple gear downshifts were very problematic. For the street, no biggie. For the track... well...

I really hope MB fixed the MCT for the over heating and downshift issue. If it did, this will definitely be a car that should be on everyone's radar. It's really too bad they didn't just put a true DCT in it. That, IMO, would have made the car a real game changer for MB.

gxman · 10-04-2014, 12:45 PM

That two tone black/white interior looks world class.

I'm guessing an easy $7-10K increase over its predecessor.

The coupe version can't come fast enough!

hellrotm · 10-04-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gxman

That two tone black/white interior looks world class.

I'm guessing an easy $7-10K increase over its predecessor.

They look to be the same seats in the CLA45. Seats, leather, stitched dash/doors cost $3,750.

Definitely not going to be anywhere near $10k.

ybbiz34 · 10-04-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gxman

That two tone black/white interior looks world class.

I'm guessing an easy $7-10K increase over its predecessor.

They look to be the same seats in the CLA45. Seats, leather, stitched dash/doors cost $3,750.

Definitely not going to be anywhere near $10k.

They're the same as the seats offered in the CLA45 and the new AMG GT.

They're standard in the C63 and GT - optional in the CLA45.

I've heard the price hike for the base model could be as low as $2k.

SCOTT26 · 10-05-2014, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerj

From CH tweet:

"The C63 is twatting fast, doesn't have a pussy in-line six like that nancy BMW" That's what the man from AMG didn't say. (But wanted to)

I found this funny

It is heavier though.

gthal · 10-05-2014, 06:16 AM

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It is heavier though.

Yes... but... on the surface it does look like MB has done a good job of closing the performance gap. Power to weight is better so it will likely be much faster in a straight line if that matters to someone. We will need to see where track performance shakes out but I bet it is very close. The only real weakness I can see in the C63 is the transmission. Other than that, it is a great car... I really hope BMW steps up with the competition package with improvements that put it over the top again.

amanuuh · 10-05-2014, 10:04 AM

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It is heavier though.

according to reports it weighs 3615 pounds...

Lorde · 10-05-2014, 10:15 AM

Avant one!

And it's the AMG C63 now...

Inablur · 10-05-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It is heavier though.

Thats pretty much all BMW can say lol... Bavaria is in trouble

evanescent03 · 10-05-2014, 03:22 PM

the fast lane quoted the standard amg 0-60 in 4.0 and the amg s as 3.9 to 60. I'm guessing the 1/4 mile and trap speed will be a bit faster than the m3/m4 though. it's no surprise that the AMG went for big power and the M division didn't. seems like a trend and this will be another case of it coming down to minor detail preferences. i think the rear end of the c63 somewhat ruined the car for me. still gonna be sweet though.

fusionchicken · 10-05-2014, 06:26 PM

Saw my first w205 C irl today... C63 is going to be a stunner

hellrotm · 10-05-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It is heavier though.

According to BMWusa it isn't going to much heavier at all. M3 curb weight 3595 lbs. And real world weight of customer M3's have not been anywhere near BMW's BS claims.

Scott, why does the 328ix/335ix weigh more than the C300/C400 4matic?

MBusa: C300/C400 weigh in at 3,594/3,693 lbs

BMWusa: 328ix/335ix weigh in at 3,625/3,720 lbs

EMpunker · 10-06-2014, 08:24 PM

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Saw my first w205 C irl today... C63 is going to be a stunner

I also saw my first C400 on the road. Very nice looking cars.

Powerslide · 10-06-2014, 09:20 PM

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according to reports it weighs 3615 pounds...

Right.... just like the F82 M4 weighs 3300 lbs and the F80 M3 weighs 3350 lbs...

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