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12-12-2013, 03:10 PM | #267 |
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Cup holders
Any one know what the deal is with cup holders? They're not in the same spot as E90/E92. Doesn't look like they exist in the center console. I think I may have spotted one on the far left of the drivers side to the right of a strip of buttons. Is that one of them?
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12-12-2013, 03:17 PM | #268 | |
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12-12-2013, 03:18 PM | #269 |
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The cupholders are there... they are just covered. You have to remove the tray cover and place it neatly in the special netting to hold it in the glove compartment. One of the electrical outlets is behind it in the little magical door behind the tray. The door compartments aren't big enough to hold large bottles of water. But who cares... you won't spill your coffee as much as you would have in the E9X - those cup holders are deeper. For those getting their sbuxxx in their new m3/4.
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Looks amazing. I must say though I'm pretty disappointed they didn't stick with the "oversquare" design that was initially published. Kind of gave the s55 it's own identity over the n55. Not to mention you don't really want an undersquare block when revving high..
Maybe they wanted to produce more torque down low and focus the powerband of the turbos up top? Anyways I'm sure the head and cams are probably different to make power all the way to 7600rpm. |
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12-12-2013, 04:21 PM | #272 | ||
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I'm sure with even with max 18psi boost on the S55, we'll have some head room with the efficiency curves of the new turbines. Sacrifice heat & long term reliability with some fun? Worried about the top end though, those curves due to the top mounted IC seems too tight. It all comes down to tuning really. Quote:
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12-12-2013, 04:50 PM | #273 | |
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12-12-2013, 05:36 PM | #274 |
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I'd love to see BMW put together a huge image of their current line-up because they look all look amazing. M235i (we can leave the ugly-duckling M135i out) next to M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 GC -- all in Alpine White
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Love all the new pics and info
Please forgive me if this was answered in the 11 pages of posts Do we have a definitive breakdown of the different driving modes as far as what is enabled/disabled in comfort, sport and sport+? for example, I have read that DTC/DSC is disabled in some modes and the automatic rev-matching is only avaliable in comfort and sport?
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im in, M3 wins. but i will wait for 2 nd or 3rd year to get the bugs out. dont want another fuel pump 335 issue. i will keep my M3 sedan which is totally awesome while this becomes proven
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12-12-2013, 07:10 PM | #278 |
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I'm sure the engine will hold up just fine. In my opinion it probably has a very good flowing head compared to the n55 which dies after 6k. That allows it to keep revving and keep making power. It does worry me though that it has such a long stroke compared to its bore. Whereas the S65 can take some extra rpms with an upgraded tune, I don't think this will be able to safely rev to 8k without getting some sort of upgraded vibration damper.
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Keep in mind that the I6 is one of the best balanced engines around. It has absolutely no primary or shaking, force or moment imbalances. It is slightly better balanced than the cross plane V8 in the S65. Vibrations will not be any signficant limiting factor in this engine.
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It's just throws me off as to why BMW would have even published that. Quote:
Edit: not saying it will become a problem at stock rpm limits. I'm talking more in terms of raising the redline for track engines. |
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One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen much talk about is Center of gravity.
Could just be marketing, but if they really achieved a significant reduction on CoG - that is going to have some really tremendous impact. When I watch the videos of a stock e9x m3 going around the track and I watch videos of the f8x m3/m4 being tracked, I feel like the F8x platform is much flatter and quicker to change direction. I'm being subjective here and using my eyes as the judge, so make your own opinion. It's a bigger vehicle now so I've been watching body control very closely. The f8x seems to rebound a bit more aggressively but it's always tightly controlled and the speed and composure in which it changes directions is startling in a sedan of it's size. IDK if it's chassis stiffness, CoG, weight reduction, suspension tuning, etc....but I'm really extremely curious to see how it all comes together. I think this new m3 is going to post some very surpising lap times when the time comes. |
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