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I don't think it's hard to make a decision between the M4 and Cayman GTS (or S).
If you need the back seat or you love the feeling of strong low-end torque, get the M4. Otherwise, get the Cayman. I test drove an M4 DCT and a Cayman 6MT. The M4 looks and feels much bigger. The Cayman looks, sounds, and handles better. The build and paint quality seem better on the Cayman. Also, the M4 is an unproven and un-debugged first-year model, while the Cayman has been out for a while without issues. By the way, the Cayman S pulls pretty strongly when it's in the right gear. Even at low RPMs, it isn't too bad. For example, it manages to accelerate on the highway even in 6th gear, and it has decent pull in 5th. You do need to shift it lower to get strong acceleration, though, and even then it isn't what you get from the M4 obviously. |
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07-04-2014, 08:16 PM | #269 |
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For people contemplating the the GTS just go drive a Cayman S with the sport suspension or pasm it is the the exact same car minus the 15hp which you will never feel. One thing I would like to add though is I love the cayman a lot but I cannot recommend it to anyone that doesn't have nice curvy (mountain roads) near them. As the car will just get old very quickly on straight roads where as the M4 will be blast in this situation.
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07-06-2014, 08:10 AM | #271 |
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07-06-2014, 08:55 AM | #273 |
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This was the conundrum I was in all year. It was really the Alfa 4C vs the Cayman S.
Both cars are that make you feel alive and give that intense driving pleasure that really cannot be duplicated. I was in love with the Alfa more than anything else. Something about having that car was just absolutely necessary for me, but per usual, Alfa did what Alfa does best and just decided to completely botch the sale of the car, making the LE subject to market, which pushed the car out of a price bracket that is not only even questionable but ultimately foolish (some 4C LE's are going for 90K USD overseas) and the car has not even come to the US yet! Now, the entire point of this car was for Alfa to get back into the US market by selling lots of cars, so to me, making it this expensive was a mistake, thus it pushed me in the direction of the Porsche. I went to test drive a cayman S, it was about 20 degrees out, roads absolutely coated in salt over here in Northern NJ- West NY area, and the car was an absolute BEAST! It was literally amazing, the way you sat in the cockpit, the way the car felt, the transition from driver input to the car's output was just so fluent that I couldn't even believe it. After the test drive, I was set. Silver Cayman S, 20 inch Carrera Wheels, manual, Sport Suspension, and Sport Chrono, and that was basically all I could afford because of Porsche's "a la carte" optioning. Well, as I locked myself into the idea that this would be the car, I would stop everyday on my way from work at the local Porsche dealer and look at his array of Caymans. They were lined up one after the next, each in their respective "Porsche'y" colors -black, grey, silver, brown?, more black, different greys, and more silvers,- and I kept trying to force myself to get excited. I would keep reflecting on that test drive, continuing to hype myself into anticipation, albeit I find the Cayman S a nice looking car, I just couldn't get "gitty" about it. I couldn't find that magical feeling like when I was younger and my father got a new toy or when I got my any of my Ducati's or my G-wagon. For whatever reason, the Porsche just couldn't evoke this feeling. So this left me back in the neutral zone, Undecided and frustrated, I was basically set on just not getting a high-end car but rather just an OK one and acquiring a few more bikes, one for the track and maybe a custom this or custom that. But then auto-show came up.... I'd be lying to you if I didn't tell you I went for the Alfa. I was enamored by this car, and this was the first time after years of scoping I would see it in the flesh, I quickly bought a ticket, and raced to the Javits center in NYC. The Alfa was brilliant, had all the lines I wanted, all the contours and details I'd expected, a miniature ferrari in the flesh. Unfortunatly, for Alfa, after seeing the car for 45 minutes, I wondered over to BMW....... Seeing what would now be my future car, the M4 sitting steadily in the corner, looking absolutely f***ing MONSTROUS. It was as mean as it could be, it had lines, angles, aggression, beauty (which for me is rare in a BMW) function, technology, carbon fiber (a direct bloodline to my heart) and a starting MSRP that made me think twice. Obviously, as it turns out my M4 is ordered and I'm awaiting delivery in a couple months. But what turned me on about this car is that it is the best overall out of the 3 cars. It gives bonkers performance, a quality interior, creature comforts which though is not a requirement for me, if I can get them, why not? and most of all it gave that charisma that I was looking for. Being in my 20's I just did not want to drive a drone car. For whatever reason the Porsche just felt like that because of how it looked and a little lack of torque. After looking at everything; pricing-service-trackability (financially) and it's purpose as a DD, especially in my neck of the woods where pot-holes, snow, rain and anything else that could damage the roads exists, the M4 is the all-out champion. I know it's a rant but this is what pulled me towards this car, and I think it could help others who are in the quandary of what to pick. As a guy who loves sport bikes, the porsche's ride was amazing, but I have been in many many many M3's and all I keep hearing is that this is better than those, so I am more than confident this car will be an absolute treat to drive! -SerieD |
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Interesting thread going here. I am going to post a detailed comparison (at least my impressions) as I just traded a 2013 Porsche Boxster S on a 2015 M3. The 981 was a GREAT car but lacked in a bunch of areas. If I could have kept the 981 and got the M3 I would have done so. For me it came down to the fact (for me at least) the 981 was not practical as a DD while the M3 can easily pull double duty. Still getting to know the M3 and used to the desp sound of the exhaust but so far so good.
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08-01-2014, 03:14 AM | #279 |
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I don't know,the Cayman just does not get me excited enough.The only Porsche I'd spend my money on is the GT3.The phenomenal grip,coupled with cat like reflexes,let's not talk about the sound ,put it in super car territory.And for 135k it's a bargain.Can't way to get my hands on it next summer.I remember waiting for my 997gt3 order and how exciting and emotional that experience was.I feel the same way about about the 991.If you don't feel like you can't sleep at night for a car,it's probably not the right car for you.
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08-01-2014, 04:57 AM | #280 | |
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Sports exhaust on GTS is the best I've heard on a Porsche outside of the GT3. They've also updated the front end geo's so the steering is a lot better than the regular 981 S. The M4 is a fast car, say 0-100mph in 8.5s. The GTS is only a second slower and it's much more fun to ring it out to 8000rpm than to surf a wave of mid-range diesel like torque. |
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08-01-2014, 12:28 PM | #282 |
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Why would anyone feel like they can't sleep at night for any car? It's just a car - it doesn't do much new and doesn't change your life (unless it's your first car - the first one is exciting.)
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