U.S. 2016 M3 LCI / M4 New Standard Equipment and Changes (Sakhir Orange returns!)

[Technic]

Posted in here... http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=372

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Do you have link to the exact pics you are referring to?

I am skeptical that the trim molds and assemblies will be changing for MY2016. What could have been so important about a few contours that they would reshape all those different trim pieces? There are dozens of different trim types that would be effected.

I can easily accept something like the button surround changing because that will not impact the surround trim pieces. But any change that would have a rippling effect to other parts of the interior for no apparent gain I would think would be ruled out for cost reasons.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Technic

Posted in here... http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=372

Those are M3 photos which you just said were Photoshopped and thus are not reliable. Or did I misunderstand you?

In any case, I did look at those pictures and don't see any confirmation that the trim-proper is changing in any way. There are so many different lighting sources playing off the surfaces that they aren't reliable for that purpose. Heck look at the CF weave - it looks quite different between the two photos. Yet we aren't going to suggest that it will change for MY2016, right?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Those are M3 photos which you just said were Photoshopped and thus are not reliable. Or did I misunderstand you?

In any case, I did look at those pictures and don't see any confirmation that the trim-proper is changing in any way. There are so many different lighting sources playing off the surfaces that they aren't reliable for that purpose. Heck look at the CF weave - it looks quite different between the two photos. Yet we aren't going to suggest that it will change for MY2016, right?

They photoshopped the trim into the M3 non-LCI interior (no sliding cupholder door, don't want the attention to be there), but those trim photos match these: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...41&postcount=1

The vent frames are built-in into the trim piece. The vent assemblies are a separate part. So by changing the vent frame BMW changed the trim itself.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Technic

The vent frames are built-in into the trim piece. The vent assemblies are a separate part. So by changing the vent frame BMW changed the trim itself.

True enough - I had forgotten that is the case. These pictures show an example of the trim off of the car:

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2557949/

Nevertheless, even with this being the case, I still don't consider the new option code to be verification that the 4/M4 get the chrome vent surrounds.

[BwoodBMW]

Guys the M4 is not getting the interior updates. Look at the trim descriptions, they are different from m4 to m3. BMW has even confirmed it to members who reached out to ask

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Guys the M4 is not getting the interior updates. Look at the trim descriptions, they are different from m4 to m3. BMW has even confirmed it to members who reached out to ask

in a word, exactly!

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Guys the M4 is not getting the interior updates. Look at the trim descriptions, they are different from m4 to m3. BMW has even confirmed it to members who reached out to ask

Do you have a URL to the posts from people who received responses from BMW? I'd like to have a link to those here.

In any case, as in the past with conflicting information like this - in the end it is still a crap shoot, even when there is confirmed information from BMW (see past discussions about S55 bore/stroke, contrast stitching on extended leather interior, and others for examples).

[Technic]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Guys the M4 is not getting the interior updates. Look at the trim descriptions, they are different from m4 to m3. BMW has even confirmed it to members who reached out to ask

So BMW confirmed that their own Ordering and Pricing Guides are incorrect as well?

I mean, both the M3 and M4 share the exact same trim descriptions and updated codes for MY2016.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Do you have a URL to the posts from people who received responses from BMW? I'd like to have a link to those here.

In any case, as in the past with conflicting information like this - in the end it is still a crap shoot, even when there is confirmed information from BMW (see past discussions about S55 bore/stroke, contrast stitching on extended leather interior, and others for examples).

directly from bmw global site... M4 interior:


M3 Interior:

[biggripper]

I’m feeling like some people are thinking this M4 Nav issue is a potential deal breaker for them if the f82 turns out to have the same Nav as last year’s model. I love my gadgets but that seems a bit crazy. However, if someone is kinda on the fence between the M3/M4 I could probably understand if that might “contribute” to the decision of and M3 over and M4. Not saying I would let that sway me but I could understand.

I haven’t heard enough about the new Nav to really make me feel on way or the other. I mean faster hardware and free OTA map updates for 3 years sound great, but not earth shattering.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

directly from bmw global site... M4 interior:

M3 Interior:

Right - we've seen lots of pictures, but when it comes to updating media to include finer details like this, it isn't always a priority to do so in a timely manner or at all for that matter. I was more interested in the people you had mentioned that contacted BMW and received specific responses back.

[oneighty]

Originally Posted by Technic

This is not new... all interior upgrades of the E90 M3 LCI were applied to the E92/93 M3 18 months before its own LCI.

I find this a very interesting point. I was up to speed back in the E46 era but lost touch in the E90 era. Whatever happens either way is not a deal breaker for me. Have there been instances in the past where BMW's own presentation materials / documents were just plain wrong?

I'm go back to the document below. I find it a little hard to believe the M4 is getting ANY of the LCI updates and then they don't even mention it in their official documentation (I'm assuming this is official and not something Bimmerpost and a forum member put together?).

Originally Posted by oneighty

[oneighty]

And one other thought, if they DO include all the interior changes, the M4 LCI would only be the exterior rear lights (assuming the same changes as the M3), in which case the 2015 to 2016 change would be more significant then the official 2017 LCI update.

Again i'm not sure how much I care either way, but my money is going on no changes whatsoever (asides from the standard equipment changes / msrp bump of course).

[pruettfan]

The addition of comfort access, sat radio, and HK surround are really nice, I was a bit bothered with the idea that to sat radio and comfort access I would have to spring for a 4k exec package.

[Technic]

The only OEM document that I trust in full is the Ordering Guide. Website and other documentation are known to have errors, not usually but sometimes (worst is the website). Errors/changes in the Ordering Guide are normally corrected by an updated released-date Ordering Guide within the same model year.

And in this particular case, the Ordering Guide for the MY2016 M3/M4 (same Ordering Guide, not separated) have all interior trims updated with new codes on both models compared with the MY2015 M3/M4 Ordering Guide.

Originally Posted by oneighty

I find this a very interesting point. I was up to speed back in the E46 era but lost touch in the E90 era. Whatever happens either way is not a deal breaker for me. Have there been instances in the past where BMW's own presentation materials / documents were just plain wrong?

I'm go back to the document below. I find it a little hard to believe the M4 is getting ANY of the LCI updates and then they don't even mention it in their official documentation (I'm assuming this is official and not something Bimmerpost and a forum member put together?).

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Do you have a URL to the posts from people who received responses from BMW? I'd like to have a link to those here.

i've received a direct response from them and pasted it in this post

[slush2go]

It seems that BMW Deutschland (BMW.de) has updated the F80 configurator for the 2016 model year (after being removed for a few days)! The white HVAC display looks good!

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by slush2go

It seems that BMW Deutschland (BMW.de) has updated the F80 configurator for the 2016 model year (after being removed for a few days)! The white HVAC display looks good!

meh. I liked the orange better. oh well...

[dgp]

Originally Posted by slush2go

It seems that BMW Deutschland (BMW.de) has updated the F80 configurator for the 2016 model year (after being removed for a few days)! The white HVAC display looks good!

Seems identical to F82 on BMW.de configurator though....

[mboxM4]

Originally Posted by dgp

Seems identical to F82 on BMW.de configurator though....

F82 on bmw.de looks orange. The F80 has a white display.

I still like the orange better.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Brosef

meh. I liked the orange better. oh well...

I got to see the white gauge on a 16 M235i and actually really liked it

[sgroer]

Originally Posted by Xtabi

I made a post on that earlier. One of the things I hated the most about the interior was (is) the orange color of the display. Of course it was my wife who pointed it out. And from then on it glared at me every time I see it!

Thanks for pointing it out!