Exteriors Compared: BMW F82 M4 Concept vs E92 M3 vs E46 M3

cs4444 · 08-22-2013, 03:41 PM

The E46 is timeless, one if the best looking modern M's IMO.

F82 is stunning also, the hood line does stick out with the yellow color, but hopefully with the production version they can get the panel gaps tighter, if so it would be barely noticeable.

Carl L · 08-22-2013, 03:50 PM

Honest opinions on styling from an E92 M3 owner who won't be buying the F82... but will be most likely be buying the F80 next year.

1. The hood bulge is better integrated on the F82 (and E46) than the E92.
2. The rear bumper is fussy on the F82 compared to the other two.
3. I still think the E46 M3 has the best wheel arches of the three.
4. The E46 is looking old, but like a stock E39 M5, it'll always look special.
5. I may stand alone on not liking the concepts front lip. I never like them tbh.
6. The side vents are so much better than on the regular 4-Series.
7. The F82 has re-added some of the E46M bulldog look the E92 slightly lacks.
8. I'd rather the hood cut line wasn't there, but it's no big deal to me.

AtlantaDude · 08-22-2013, 03:52 PM

I don't know guys... I love the E46 and E92... but I'm not a fan of the Concept so far. Aesthetically at least. I just don't have that wow that I had the first time that I saw an E92 haul ass past me. Which then started me down a 4 year journey to owning my own. I'm going to reserve my lust for when I see this thing in real life...

Mr. ///M3 RD · 08-22-2013, 03:53 PM

All three look fine and each in there own way is a winner ...

xlover · 08-22-2013, 03:57 PM

looking at the dimension stats, i keep coming back to the fact the F82 is shorter than the previous two generations. I think in person it is going to look low wide and mean. just perfect for my taste

Abtin · 08-22-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlos_Danger

How to "complain" while commenting on a new BMW (THAT YOU'LL EVENTUALLY LOVE ANYWAY ONCE YOU GET USED TO IT)

Choose your own adventure:

1) That new Bimmer is so big!
1a) Definitely needs to lose some weight!
1b) Should be featured on the tv show the Biggest Loser!
1c) BMWs are so bloated right now its like a school bus!

2) My eXX will always be better than this!
2a) Who cares, I'll never be able to afford it!
2b) Wheres the replacement for the 850i or the M1?
2c) Ugh, of course they made another special M model for some rich prick who can't drive a real manual transmissioned car.
2d) I stopped lusting after new BMWs since Chris Bangle left the company

3) Another special model, what is this Porsche?
3a) With all these new models, BMW is bloating like Mustangs editions
3b) What's next, a BMW snow mobile?

4) UGH, EVERY NEW BMW IS UGLIER THAN THE LAST ONE!
4A) For me, the first BMW I ever owned was the best one (insert model here) they are all now ugly.
4B) BMW just doesn't know how to design a good looking car anymore.
4C) You know, the belt line and 'face' of this just doesn't do it for me - I know I should like it, but I don't

Hah so true!!

swamp2 · 08-22-2013, 04:01 PM

Thanks Jason, wonderful comparison (photos esp.).

MRG Race Co · 08-22-2013, 04:01 PM

I think the F82 looks really good. A couple of things that bother me...

1) I think the rear end looks very similar to a Lexus IS-F (and I really despise Toyotas)
2) The front bumper/grilles/lip etc look really good, but for modders it will be interesting to see what people do. And it looks really low already, so anyone who tries to lower it more will be in trouble. Interested to see what a base model front bumper will look like or if this will be a standard bumper (doubtful)
3) Obviously it needs to lose the 6 series wheels...and Im sure it will.
4) Im looking forward to seeing it in a normal color. I know some people love phoenix yellow (aurum dust) but I am not a fan. Looks like aged piss.

Its basically just the normal evolution of a car over the years. E46 will always be a special car in most M owner's hearts very similar to E30. E92 was very different (not necessarily better or worse, just different). Not sure if F82 will hold the same significance that the E46 and E30 held in people's hearts, but I guess time will tell.

Full disclosure... E92 owner and will probably own both F82 and E92 within a few years.

///Madness · 08-22-2013, 04:02 PM

I'd take all three.. They will all handle a road course fantastically and each has their own distinct engine (FI6, V8, I6). Look wise you can't go wrong either, although the M4 concept is looking the best in my eyes. It looks like it should come from the factory, not needing any aesthetic mods to make it look "better".

bimmerjph · 08-22-2013, 04:04 PM

Is it just me or does the Phoenix Yellow on the E46 look very different from the Phoenix Yellow on the E92?

greekcs · 08-22-2013, 04:06 PM

They all look good in their own way. Heres one of my E46:

Jason · 08-22-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Thanks Jason, wonderful comparison (photos esp.).

Thanks.

Jason · 08-22-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Is it just me or does the Phoenix Yellow on the E46 look very different from the Phoenix Yellow on the E92?

Just the photos.

bimmerjph · 08-22-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Just the photos.

Gotcha. I guess it is just the lighting.

Abtin · 08-22-2013, 04:09 PM

Just noticed in the dimensions listed that the M4 is both lower and wider than both M3s.

This thing is going to look so sleek on the road! Great comparo thanks.

Romo · 08-22-2013, 04:10 PM

Just great indeed

Now, if possible, the dimensions in the metric system, that would make it perfect

avsbmw · 08-22-2013, 04:11 PM

well done BMW well done

chmura · 08-22-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 517

That hood cut line. Jesus. It totally ruins things and these pics puts it into perspective. I think I've read that it's due to the design of the front end having to meet pedestrian impact laws, but why they couldn't make the cut line the same as the E92 is beyond me.

The F10 M5 has the same thing. Even the new Mercedes E350 has this line. Which tells me this has something to do with European pedestrian impact laws of some sort. I guess you cannot have the metal hood go all the way down which in these cars they prematurely stop. Which I agree is ugly.

Vervain · 08-22-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alynM3

3) Obviously it needs to lose the 6 series wheels...and Im sure it will.

If I'm not mistaken, I remember Scott26 saying that those are going to be the standard production wheels, with another new design available. They are very similar to the m6 wheels from a distance.

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Originally Posted by Romo

Just great indeed

Now, if possible, the dimensions in the metric system, that would make it perfect

Yes please.

chmura · 08-22-2013, 04:23 PM

I love the competition package wheels that are on the e9x and e46 M3.

Hope they bring these wheels back to the M4/M3.

bimmer · 08-22-2013, 04:29 PM

M4 looks more aggressive. Also looks like the best looking M3 in the history. Cant wait to trade my IS for this. Lets home drives better and faster than e92m.

Never Convicted · 08-22-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by greekcs

They all look good in their own way. Heres one of my E46:

Beautiful car, great color. I wish they had done the comparo in that color. Really one of the nicest E46's I've ever seen.

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Carl L Major 196 Rep 1,248 Posts Drives: '15 M3 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: West Coast iTrader: (0)	Honest opinions on styling from an E92 M3 owner who won't be buying the F82... but will be most likely be buying the F80 next year. 1. The hood bulge is better integrated on the F82 (and E46) than the E92. 2. The rear bumper is fussy on the F82 compared to the other two. 3. I still think the E46 M3 has the best wheel arches of the three. 4. The E46 is looking old, but like a stock E39 M5, it'll always look special. 5. I may stand alone on not liking the concepts front lip. I never like them tbh. 6. The side vents are so much better than on the regular 4-Series. 7. The F82 has re-added some of the E46M bulldog look the E92 slightly lacks. 8. I'd rather the hood cut line wasn't there, but it's no big deal to me.
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MRG Race Co Lieutenant Colonel 428 Rep 1,506 Posts Drives: '12 Nardo E92 '15 Fashion F80 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (14) Garage List 2015 BMW F80 M3 [0.00] 2012 BMW M3 [0.00]	I think the F82 looks really good. A couple of things that bother me... 1) I think the rear end looks very similar to a Lexus IS-F (and I really despise Toyotas) 2) The front bumper/grilles/lip etc look really good, but for modders it will be interesting to see what people do. And it looks really low already, so anyone who tries to lower it more will be in trouble. Interested to see what a base model front bumper will look like or if this will be a standard bumper (doubtful) 3) Obviously it needs to lose the 6 series wheels...and Im sure it will. 4) Im looking forward to seeing it in a normal color. I know some people love phoenix yellow (aurum dust) but I am not a fan. Looks like aged piss. Its basically just the normal evolution of a car over the years. E46 will always be a special car in most M owner's hearts very similar to E30. E92 was very different (not necessarily better or worse, just different). Not sure if F82 will hold the same significance that the E46 and E30 held in people's hearts, but I guess time will tell. Full disclosure... E92 owner and will probably own both F82 and E92 within a few years.
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///Madness Illustrious Time Traveller 2 Rep 41 Posts Drives: F82 M4 coming soon.. Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In time, which is relative... iTrader: (0)	I'd take all three.. They will all handle a road course fantastically and each has their own distinct engine (FI6, V8, I6). Look wise you can't go wrong either, although the M4 concept is looking the best in my eyes. It looks like it should come from the factory, not needing any aesthetic mods to make it look "better".
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bimmerjph Colonel 123 Rep 2,024 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 3.0 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tennessee iTrader: (0)	Is it just me or does the Phoenix Yellow on the E46 look very different from the Phoenix Yellow on the E92?
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greekcs Major 787 Rep 1,113 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	They all look good in their own way. Heres one of my E46: __________________ 2003 11/02 Steel Gray Metallic on Red M3 - SMGII - VF570 - SUPERSPRINT - KW - BBS - CSL ROOF SOLD 2015 09/14 Alpine White on Red 435i xDrive MPPK - Expensive black vinyl with special lettering. SOLD 2020 12/19 Mineral Gray Metallic on Black Vinyl interior M340i xDrive Last edited by greekcs; 08-23-2013 at 05:09 PM..
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Abtin New Member 7 Rep 28 Posts Drives: bmw z4 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Just noticed in the dimensions listed that the M4 is both lower and wider than both M3s. This thing is going to look so sleek on the road! Great comparo thanks.
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Romo Lieutenant Colonel 1776 Rep 1,672 Posts Drives: G87 M2- GT4 RS Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Just great indeed Now, if possible, the dimensions in the metric system, that would make it perfect
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08-22-2013, 04:29 PM	#43
bimmer BMW FOREVER 28 Rep 504 Posts Drives: BMW 335is Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: east iTrader: (0)	M4 looks more aggressive. Also looks like the best looking M3 in the history. Cant wait to trade my IS for this. Lets home drives better and faster than e92m. __________________ Bimmer __________________________________________________ 335is - AW, Loaded, 19" 313M, 6MT Thinking of F80
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