Down Pipe Poll

[azula]

What about Shifteck? at 700 bucks, it seems like a solid choice. Any user experience?

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by agabbay1

You think you're the only vendor to offer all these?

And in what world is Akrapovic second to ER?

I have seen AutoTalents before and after Dyno with ER downpipes. The gains were extremely minimal, even for a dynapack.

I will bet anything Akra DPs post better gains than ER. Wanna take me up on that?

don't think he's talking about "quality" per se ... he said most popular (to me meaning most sold)

[-JLT-]

Eisenmann here! love it

[tareemaa]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

Zima would be on top of my list if I'm brave enough to do DPs. Flex section and ceramic.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they are yet to throw a CEL as well

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by AutoTalent

Akrapovic or Eisenmann have great downpipes. ER is fairly popular on here because of its price point but we have had some install problems with them.

Say no more

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by agabbay1

You think you're the only vendor to offer all these?

And in what world is Akrapovic second to ER?

I have seen AutoTalents before and after Dyno with ER downpipes. The gains were extremely minimal, even for a dynapack.

I will bet anything Akra DPs post better gains than ER. Wanna take me up on that?

I might be wrong but so far i have not seen anyone that offers all of them

Originally Posted by -JLT-

don't think he's talking about "quality" per se ... he said most popular (to me meaning most sold)

Thank you

[Nate@IND]

Eisenmann's downpipe is designed and built in Germany using the same engineers that build original equipment for Porsche and AMG. During stress testing at the Nurburgring Nordshleife the engineers found that movement of the exhaust system would distrupt the seal of a ridigly mounted downpipe, and can contribute to additional wear over time. The flex section is not a must-have in mild driving conditions, but Eisenmann's downpipe must be designed to function correctly in all driving conditions, for all drivers.







2000 degree Ceramic coating (optional)

[coolmody]

I'm running a custom set with built in flex pipe.

[YianniM3]

Thanks for all the feed back guys.

again after hearing the Eisenmann i didn't love it idk why just seemed to high pitched and full throttle (this car had full exhaust and downpipes) also i am not an expert so idk if downpipes alone make different exhaust sounds depending on the brand i have asked this a few times haven't really gotten an answer.

On a stock exhaust will different downpipes make different sound?

Im currently leaning towards ER or akrapovic

[edwinm3]

Can't go wrong with Akra or Eisenmann, quality is just second to none and fitment should be perfect, don't want any fitment, rattle issues on a $70K plus car.

[Jaded M3]

Just had ER downpipes installed. The shop had no issues installing them. Quality looking construction.

Good Luck.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by YianniM3

Thanks for all the feed back guys.

again after hearing the Eisenmann i didn't love it idk why just seemed to high pitched and full throttle (this car had full exhaust and downpipes) also i am not an expert so idk if downpipes alone make different exhaust sounds depending on the brand i have asked this a few times haven't really gotten an answer.

On a stock exhaust will different downpipes make different sound?

Im currently leaning towards ER or akrapovic

All catless downpipes will sound the same. Only difference in downpipes is how they are built/fitments.

[MDIVISION]

I will most likely get the ERs along with the MS valve control

[FC4]

Recipe to spread false rumors on a forum...pick a brand that's not the most expensive on the market, say you heard from your buddy that there are fitment issues. All of a sudden, others will respond "I chose ____ over ____ because I didn't want downpipes which will rattle and go rusty on me after 2K miles."

Downpipes which underwent "stress testing at the Nurburgring Nordshleife." LOL, really? Just statements which are hard to disprove but will be taken at face value because of the brand. However, yes...Eisenmann and Akrapovic make among the best exhaust products money can buy.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by agabbay1

And in what world is Akrapovic second to ER?

For one, this poll. Look up.

Originally Posted by agabbay1

I have seen AutoTalents before and after Dyno with ER downpipes. The gains were extremely minimal, even for a dynapack.

I will bet anything Akra DPs post better gains than ER. Wanna take me up on that?

The fact that whatever shop you mentioned uses a Dynapack should automatically discredit their results by default, but please share what compelling info you have. I'm sure it's conclusive.

[AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by FC4

For one, this poll. Look up.



The fact that whatever shop you mentioned uses a Dynapack should automatically discredit their results by default, but please share what compelling info you have. I'm sure it's conclusive.

Well it's just a temporary solution until our Maha dyno is installed... i'm sure you have heard of that.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by AutoTalent

Well it's just a temporary solution until our Maha dyno is installed... i'm sure you have heard of that.

[bdoooh]

I'm considering Shifttek.. $700.

Just got their N55 one installed on my buddy's 335 and install was fine.

VRSF is releasing theirs soon too at a $600 price point I think. I had theirs on my 135i N55 and there were no problems there.

$1000+ for a DP is insanity.

[Myaddiction]

Can't wait for VRSF to release theirs. Same story for the 335i's with N54. At first only a few vendors had down pipes and they were close to a grand. VRSF came out with theirs for 350 and everyone that already bought some or stood to profit from expensive pipes screamed bloody murder and claimed 99 reasons why cheap downpipes will ruin your car and give your kids cancer.

I installed my VRSF pipes and had no issue for years. Along with the thousands of others that did the same. Also all the "expensive brand" prices dropped by 200 to 400 dollars to the 600 range. Same will happen here on a similar scale.

Don't get me wrong, the Eisenmann pipes are car porn gorgeous. Tested at the ring, lol. So if I drive my car on the ring only, how many years would it take for the "some additional wear" to show up on a gasket-less mounting flange? Would love to see some data on that. Just say buy this pipe because its beautiful. No need to lie. Though, I couldn't live with spending that kind of money for no gains over any other pipe. You know, because it really is just a pipe.

However, I'm glad there are options across the price points and to each their own.

[MasterP]

I'm running Shifteck. Great fit and performance so far. No issues with rattles or leaks the Past 4500 miles. JB4, E85 mix, 100 Octane, Map 2, Map 7 - you name it. It's been great.

Best value for the money

[mshab356]

Originally Posted by coolmody

I'm running a custom set with built in flex pipe.

Who made this for you? How much did you pay?

[coolmody]

Originally Posted by mshab356

Who made this for you? How much did you pay?

A local shop here called Haute AG. They have a couple sets in stock. The pricing is comparable to all the others on the market, and the welds are the best in the business!