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10-09-2012, 10:03 AM | #463 |
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Well, I just want it to make it a little bit tricky that's all and the entire picture pretty much covers the engine compartment.
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10-09-2012, 07:52 PM | #468 |
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I think it would be pretty easy to work out the peak horsepower for the new car if they leak a peak rpm...considering they've already said peak torque is around 395lb/ft.... and we could probably assume the power curve will pretty much match the F10 M5... I just chucked the numbers into excel... the numbers in bold suggest are the suggested outputs assuming an M5-esque curve... It seems pretty obvious bmw would have purposely detuned top end if output is much below 450bhp...and M cars are meant to be all about top end power...so Id imagine they dont want to destroy their brand image too much. Sorry for the bad dodgy excel format
RPM 290 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 Lb/ft 1000 55 65 67 69 70 72 74 76 1500 83 97 100 103 106 109 111 114 2000 110 129 133 137 141 145 149 152 2500 138 162 167 171 176 181 186 190 3000 166 194 200 206 211 217 223 228 3500 193 227 233 240 247 253 260 267 4000 221 259 267 274 282 289 297 305 4500 248 291 300 308 317 326 334 343 5000 276 324 333 343 352 362 371 381 5500 304 356 367 377 387 398 408 419 6000 331 388 400 411 423 434 446 457 6500 359 421 433 446 458 470 483 495 7000 387 453 466 480 493 506 520 533 |
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10-10-2012, 07:04 PM | #470 |
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I agree...I suppose its possible to have a low 400s peak output if peak power is produced at around 6000rpm ( which would be very unimpressive for a smaller M-motor) with torque having dropped off to 360-ish by then... if this were the case, there would really be no point in buying an M3....I sincerely hope the car is making peak power at atleast 6500rpm + otherwise you'd probably be better off buying the next gen C63 or even the RS4 - which to me is the only car to potentially keep the e90 v8 style dream alive.
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12-05-2012, 10:49 AM | #473 |
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12-10-2012, 02:43 PM | #474 | |
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12-12-2012, 04:46 AM | #476 |
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In german forums are recent speculations that the leaked engine pics posted here, didnīt show the new M3/M4 engine but the also new M340i/M440i engine - based on an N55 succesor !!!
This specs are based on insider-informations, that the M3-Testmules are also used for development of the N55 succesor - for the M Performance Automobile F3x and later the .35is. So also the "F80M3" fueled with E85 in sweden could be one of this engine-test-cars. The use of the "F80" body was logical because the N55 succesor is/was for sure one candidate for the M3/M4 engine - in its highest developed form ... but it didnīt says for 100% that this engine was also really choosen. This let german forums speculate that there is already an chance that the new M3/M4 gets an other engine than the "here confirmed" I6 - also BMW/M-GmbH insiders considers other possible F8x engine variants ... for me this are good news. The M3/M4-engine is already the biggest BMW secret until now ... only time will tell us the truth. Greets Uli_HH |
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12-12-2012, 06:37 AM | #477 | |
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^^That's very interesting. I have a few friends who work for BMW AG. They have friends who work at ///M. They have been told the new F82 M3/M4 engine will be called the S55 engine code. It will be based on the N55 valvetronic engine, but with TWO twin scroll turbos. They also told me that while 450 PS is the horsepower goal... the engine is making around 430 PS but with much more torque than they(///M) thought they would have made. I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens. Dack
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12-31-2013, 02:24 PM | #478 |
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Things I don't like about it
You have to be kidding me on the way this engine compartment looks. It's terrible. I absolutely hate the very visible tack welds on the black J like structures in the front sides. Just lazy to show those. It's in all the 3 and 4 series. YUK. This engine looks like (as someone else said) a bunch of parts thrown together.
I hope to heck that this isn't the real engine. It may go like stink, but it looks like a bunch of bolt-ons, not a billet one piece that previous ///M's all have. -gh |
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We also know that the current M235i/3erGT/F3x/F2x engine produces 320 HP while the PPK versions produce 340 HP. Dack
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12-31-2013, 03:26 PM | #481 |
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IMO the S55 is all about performance. It ain't pretty, exotic or nice sounding but it will likely kick butt. It does seem to be a patch work of existing technologies and parts to a large extent. Does it matter? Not for the driving experience but it does play a role in owner satisfaction just as owning a Swiss hand made mechanical watch gives more satisfaction than a $20 target watch that out performs the Swiss watch in all categories.
BMW gave us Swiss watches for Target price for a while, that period has now come to an end. We still get the performance but not the soft values of uniqueness and specialness. |
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12-31-2013, 03:39 PM | #482 | |
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many people do not understand why people with money buy the things they do. because its not always about getting the most for the money. but rather having something that holds true to uniqueness and specialness. |
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As long a BMW understands...
I think that BMW understands exactly why people with money spend $$$ on their ///M cars. The M5/M6 engine is a good example. Perfectly symmetrical, and looks somewhat hand built. Since BMW always tries to make the next M3 faster/better than the previous, performance is a given. What they chose to ignore (based on these early photo's) was the hand built eye candy look of the engine bay.
They seem to have gone the way of the Subaru WRX engine bay look (not entirely a mortal sin). The Mitsu turbo's were a bit of a shock as well... -gh |
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01-01-2014, 09:28 AM | #484 | |
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On the other hand a Swatch is a Swiss watch too, I have a Diaphane One. Itīs way more unique than my Seadweller. And my current car is more unique and special than 90% of the E9x M3s produced. Even if itīs equipped with some lame N54 AG engine lol. Uniqueness and specialness concerns the whole package, not just the engine. Cheers Robin |
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