M4 - PURE Stage 2 Turbos - 708whp / 707wtq

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by tifosielia

That's balentently not true, I'm in the n54 community. No one is making 900hp yet. And never will on stock internals. Actually I don't think anyone has ever laid down a 900hp glory n54 dyno. (I could be wrong though)I think the record is mid 8xx's by motivs kit and Vargas stg 3.

Actually it's the same problem as this motor you need a shit ton of octane to run enough boost on stock internals. S55/N54/5 are high compression for turbo motors... meaning they will never run over 34psi of boost without lots and lots of octane. You'd need minimum 36+ psi to reach 900 on either of these motors regardless of what turbo you pick. More likely north of 40psi which just won't happen on stock C/R.

Only way we'll see those kinds of power numbers without crazy "rocket" fueling is a built lower compression motor. (Literally rocket fuel like toluene would be needed)

100 octane and a firehose of meth (for this s55 run) it's cool but realistically not something you'd want to run off the dyno.

I don't mean to rain on the parade it's awesome work and these cars are beasts for sure. Just thought some perspective would be nice.

Here you go. This guy lives here in KC. Correction, 861WHP with stock internals and projected to make 900WHP with high octane race fuel.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1104103

[Pure Turbos]

Thanks so much for all the praise and complements guys! We appreciate it! These are very exciting results!

Originally Posted by phorbes

That's disgusting.

How much are those turbos ?

The turbos are $5000 + core exchange, thanks

Originally Posted by jc1654M4

That's fantastic!! How's the traction with that much power ?

We just got our BC Forged wheels, running potenza RE11 305's in the back. It still shreds them pretty good, but it's much more grip than the stock setup. Rolling in to power, it rips them straight to redline in 3rd, like you're in 1st. Laying down strips of rubber at freeway speeds sure is fun!

When we want to grip, we use the 3 gear boost limit in the JB4. It allows us to hookup through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Then have full power in 4th. Works out nicely.

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

And where do we get 100 gas in Cali

We get our 100 octane from OCHS OIL 1321 Distribution Way, Vista CA 92081. It's on the pump, available 24/7 with a credit card swipe. Very convenient.

Originally Posted by m34jlp

Do you have any numbers for pump gas and pump + meth?

Yes, it can be seen here:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=344

Terry did pump gas testing. However, Terry has a different version of these turbos. We are confident this current set will make even more power on pump and pump + meth. I think we can be at 600+whp with 91 pump + meth. We put a deposit on a new dynojet 224x last week. Once we get the dyno installed, it will be much easier to provide more detailed testing results with different octane.

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Pure Turbos

We get our 100 octane from OCHS OIL 1321 Distribution Way, Vista CA 92081. It's on the pump, available 24/7 with a credit card swipe. Very convenient.

You're welcome, buddy

[gxman]

Let's see a roll race vs a Z06!

or a 10sec time slip with a 135mph trap...

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by gxman

or a 10sec time slip with a 135mph trap...

I would be a hesitant to launch with this power level on a sticky track.

[gxman]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

I would be a hesitant to launch with this power level on a sticky track.

It doesn't have to be an all out pass. Low boost on the launch, then to see how much it has up top.

[AYF80]

I'm getting very interested. I'll prolly stead clear of Meth though, just for the sake of simplicity.

Looking for those 93 only and 100 only tunes!

Or hopefully soon, E85 only

[hellrotm]

Terry from BMS said the DCT would not be able to handle this power even with the upgraded Dodson clutches. The limit is software related.

I have Dodson clutch packs which increase the limit, but the real holdup right now is on the software side. For the N54 and N55 we've developed back end flash maps that BOOST the observed torque tricking the DCT in to holding stronger than it otherwise would. We need to develop a similar back end flash for the S55. But without OBDII loading and well defined tables, it's not really possible. The F series flash tuning is still in its infancy right now.

[Loboost]

So if someone is not looking to break records but just wants a set up at stock boost levels or slightly above what kind of power will the increased airflow allow for at redline?

I personally think the stock power delivery is very good to help with traction, but a nice top end kick would really make the power more usable on the street.

Even the JB4 on map 1 will kill the tires until midway through 3rd, way to much midrange for available traction.

I think these turbo's set up properly at a conservative level would make for a very hard combination to beat in real world driving. It would not make the big numbers but would probably slay a lot giants!

I think this could be accomplished on 91 or 93 octane as well, or with just a few gallons of 100 or e85.

[PURE135i]

Originally Posted by gxman

Let's see a roll race vs a Z06!

or a 10sec time slip with a 135mph trap...

Z06

this will obliterate a Z06.

Fucking bada$$

[stealth-twntrbo]

Your going to need upgraded axles as well if you have slicks on it. With this much power that's the next weak point.

[DBV]

Wow! Congrats to PURE! Those are incredible numbers.

Now let's see it on a track!!

[8600RPM]

Where does one drive this and get traction? I'd be curious more in quarter mile or some performance figures ro see how power gets put down

[YasM3]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Where does one drive this and get traction? I'd be curious more in quarter mile or some performance figures ro see how power gets put down

Correct suspension setups and proper tires and you will have traction on the street no problem with this type of power

I build high horsepower mustangs daily that make these #s and then some. With TQ that comes on way sooner and harder then this turbo setup. Some up to 1000rwhp. They hook on the street when setup properly. You won't be doing this on the Stock PSS tires though.... It will need a good drag radial of some sort and the suspension setup properly. By properly I mean not just lowering springs lol You can use this type of power on the street without having to only use it at a track.

[tareemaa]

Originally Posted by Loboost

So if someone is not looking to break records but just wants a set up at stock boost levels or slightly above what kind of power will the increased airflow allow for at redline?

I personally think the stock power delivery is very good to help with traction, but a nice top end kick would really make the power more usable on the street.

Even the JB4 on map 1 will kill the tires until midway through 3rd, way to much midrange for available traction.

I think these turbo's set up properly at a conservative level would make for a very hard combination to beat in real world driving. It would not make the big numbers but would probably slay a lot giants!

I think this could be accomplished on 91 or 93 octane as well, or with just a few gallons of 100 or e85.

I'd be interested in this as well, for daily driving adding a little top end would be awesome, the f80 has so much power down low, I have idea what I'd do with another 200-300, lol. Sick numbers nonetheless!

[Mspired]

Wow. That was fast. Great work guys!!

I wonder how this would do against a Vt3 e9x m3.

[MasterC17]

Originally Posted by Mspired

Wow. That was fast. Great work guys!!

I wonder how this would do against a Vt3 e9x m3.

My guess is it would crush it. Would be interesting to see though.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by MasterC17

My guess is it would crush it. Would be interesting to see though.

Definitely wouldn't crush it. Member DLSJ5's VT3 E92 M3 is no joke. Would be fun to see though. There is a VT4 running in the 5's 60-130.

[MasterC17]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Definitely wouldn't crush it. Member DLSJ5's VT3 E92 M3 is no joke. Would be fun to see though. There is a VT4 running in the 5's 60-130.

Looks to be similar whp, but over 200wtq more on a lighter chassis, I would place my money on the F82.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by MasterC17

Looks to be similar whp, but over 200wtq more on a lighter chassis, I would place my money on the F82.

I think it would be real close. The VT3 e92 pulls way harder to redline, better top end. Hopefully Pure will go out and run some 60-130's. Check out dlsj5 YouTube, he has put down some really fast cars. F8x hasn't really proven to be as light as BMW made it out to be. The two should be a really close race. From a dig, I would put my money on the F8x. But dig races are so driver dependent.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Crazy...

So you loose traction all the way to 5th gear now LOL That must be an absolute blast to drive. Great job guys!

Mike

[BMW M4 PWR]

Held 710RW-TORQUE on the STOCK 6-spd M/T clutch!!! #6speedmanualFTW