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The generic 285/35R19 is still listed on TireRack, albeit, for some reason, without the tread width anymore.
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I looked again after your post, and didn't see the 285/35 generic. Oh well, I just had a conversation with Michelin, and they said they don't have those numbers, but they mentioned that size wise the P4S will be almost identical to the PSS in their sizes (similar molds, etc), so I'm guessing if the 285/35 was that small, likely the P4S will be the same. which, again, makes my decision MUCH easier: 295/35 star spec MPSS
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The information on the 285/35/19 must have been wrong on TireRack cause that doesn't make sense. Tiresize.com says the 285/35/19 is 11.4 wide and the 295/35/19 is 11.9. |
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The Star Versions in those sizes have a smaller bead width that work with the smaller 437m/666m bead widths (among other differences) as CanAutM3 referred to.
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Luckily I took a screenshot that proved to me I was badly mistaken in that instance. Those 295/35/19 on Florida West Coast still available in Classifieds..... |
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Oddly enough, the standard nomenclature for tires is not very reliable since the section width (the first number in the tire designation) varies a fair bit depending on the wheel width the tire is mounted on and has no direct correlation with how much rubber is on the road. On the other hand, the tread width varies very little with wheel width, is much more representative of a tire's grip ability and yet is not part of the standard nomenclature. Go figure...
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That means it is a tire that sits really "square". Note that in TireRack, I read 11.5" and 11.6" tread width for the generic and star spec 295/30R20. So both a very close in terms of tread width. The Mercedes M0 is much narrower at 9.4".
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TireRack have devised their own methodology to represent tread width that I find very informative. See here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=201
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If I were only replacing 2 I would go MPSS as well but I need 4 new tires for my new wheels. |
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Interesting they noted how inconsistent the wet area was depending on the timing before they state the MPS4S were only slightly better. Hard to make comparisons like that if the playing field isn't equal. Who knows. Maybe the MPS4S will be slightly better. However, one can only ask again. If the MPS4S were actually marginally better in with their wet grip, why did Michelin not release those actual test numbers in all their press releases and publicity, especially as wet grip and dry grip were areas where the Respected Independent Reviews note the SC6 beat the MPSS? Instead the posted lesser important stats and tried to make the margin great with deceptive non-linear graphs (conspicuous by their deception). Again, the wet and dry grip numbers are conspicuously absent, which only leads to questions. |
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I have them. But sadly it is still winter in Norway, so i cant test them..
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Great video review of MPSS vs MP4S after 1,000 miles of use.
tl;dr; MP4S is the new top tire.
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There you have it. Everything Michelin said comparing the 4S and PSS was just verified by this video. My 4S's are set to ship the first week of March. 265/30/20 and 295/30/20 are the sizes I'm running on a 20X9.5 and 20X11.
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Same here. Cant wait to get them on! Hopefully by Friday.
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