2016 M4 ZCP vs. 2015 M4 non-ZCP (from a guy who's owned both)

[dinonz]

Originally Posted by deephouse

Is it possible to order the ZCP package with different wheels?

No. You have to learn to like them or they won't sell you the ZCP package.

[Throttleblip]

Great review. I agree with everything you wrote having driven both. Here is mine:

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by deephouse

Is it possible to order the ZCP package with different wheels?

No, but you could always sell your ZCP wheels and get what you'd like better either aftermarket or a set of used OEM 19's.

[clutchdj]

Good read. Beautiful car.

[Apollo_1092]

Would you be able to post up a video of the start with the flaps open? Since the GTS has the M Performance exhaust I'm curious to hear it with the ZCP exhaust.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by Apollo_1092

Would you be able to post up a video of the start with the flaps open? Since the GTS has the M Performance exhaust I'm curious to hear it with the ZCP exhaust.

I'll have some decent videos up soon. I planned on highlighting the "roar" startup sequence as well as some revs in different modes and drive-bys.

I'm not sure if the open valve trick works in the ZCP as valves are always open at first start for a second.

I haven't hooked my JB4 up yet to force the valves open, that will happen soon as well.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Good read. Beautiful car.

Thank you!

[Apollo_1092]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

I'll have some decent videos up soon. I planned on highlighting the "roar" startup sequence as well as some revs in different modes and drive-bys.

I'm not sure if the open valve trick works in the ZCP as valves are always open at first start for a second.

I haven't hooked my JB4 up yet to force the valves open, that will happen soon as well.

You da real MVP...On a serious note thanks!!! Appreciate you taking the time to do that write up an awesome review.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by mbapoma

Great review. I agree with everything you wrote having driven both. Here is mine:

Wonderful car man! I really like MG and the SO interior.

[PeteRock]

Hi, can you tell me if there are any differences in active sound?

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by PeteRock

Hi, can you tell me if there are any differences in active sound?

Oh, yes. I forgot to mention this.

ASD is much different in the ZCP. It is hardly noticeable and much less "synthetic". Sounds much deeper.

That said, I can't wait to code it off as I prefer to hear more exhaust note.

[NiceGuyEddie]

Thanks much for writing this up - very informative. You may have just cost me 5,500 bucks.

[Dr. Who]

Originally Posted by deephouse

Is it possible to order the ZCP package with different wheels?

Nope!

TMK, the "ZCP" is pretty much a fixed deal, set in stone. If the wheels are your only issue,
you can always sell them and switch them.

I'm sure there will be lots who like them and/or Poseurs who want their car to "have" the
Competition Package. Pretty much like "///M" badges.

I personally will be switching out the wheels to 19"'s and De-Badging.

[Mandi90TT]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

I feel like I'm driving a completely different car.
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ZCP's new springs were a little lower as the car looks like a 4x4
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2015 sounded like a 2005 Kia Rio on the interior

Look, no offense, but these statements, and others like that that you have made show that you are prone to extreme hyperbole, and thus, your review, to me, is, while not quite worthless, obviously extremely biased. It's apparent that you are trying to justify your decision, and you do so by over-exaggerating things about the non-ZCP.

I'm glad you like your new ZCP, and it is quite evident from other reviews that the ZCP is certainly a better car than the non-ZCP, but your review makes it sound like the the non-ZCP is a 1979 Ford Pinto, and the ZCP is a Ferrari. That just ain't true.

If I was buying an M today, I would certainly, without a doubt, check the ZCP box. But I won't be trading in my M4 for a ZCP M4, especially given the financial loss that would entail. The ZCP seems to be well worth the $5.5k cost. However, it is not worth the $5.5k plus $10-15k loss.

Enjoy your ZCP, and I will enjoy mine, and be about a tenth of second slower than you out on the track. I'm fine with that.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

Oh, yes. I forgot to mention this.

ASD is much different in the ZCP. It is hardly noticeable and much less "synthetic". Sounds much deeper.

That said, I can't wait to code it off as I prefer to hear more exhaust note.

I agree .. honestly .. I cannot hear it at all now.

Maybe when we try and code it off .. I'll tell the difference.

It was one of the first things we noticed while driving .. completely different sounding inside the car.

[F83]

Cool. Nice write-up. Now I have to dissect the "early adopter tax" by figuring out the mods that close the gap!

[deephouse]

You write ''Handling: The car is more planted (especially stock) and traction isn't an issue at stock power levels in both straight line and lateral metrics.''

What is different on the ZCP car to have a better handling?

[BMWsully]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

Look, no offense, but these statements, and others like that that you have made show that you are prone to extreme hyperbole, and thus, your review, to me, is, while not quite worthless, obviously extremely biased. It's apparent that you are trying to justify your decision, and you do so by over-exaggerating things about the non-ZCP.

I'm glad you like your new ZCP, and it is quite evident from other reviews that the ZCP is certainly a better car than the non-ZCP, but your review makes it sound like the the non-ZCP is a 1979 Ford Pinto, and the ZCP is a Ferrari. That just ain't true.

If I was buying an M today, I would certainly, without a doubt, check the ZCP box. But I won't be trading in my M4 for a ZCP M4, especially given the financial loss that would entail. The ZCP seems to be well worth the $5.5k cost. However, it is not worth the $5.5k plus $10-15k loss.

Enjoy your ZCP, and I will enjoy mine, and be about a tenth of second slower than you out on the track. I'm fine with that.

I agree with the above. Now don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the review, but it's just a bit much (better build quality, really?). Not to mention the fact that this isn't an apples to apples comparison due to the switch from MT to DCT.

[TheLegend]

Wonder how much of this can be coded into the non comp cars. Sounds like a majority probably has more to do with stability control and how it kicks in. This certainly looks promising. http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=151683 . Apparently even the sound is different.

The competition package definitely sounds like a significant improvement and refinement of the of the car, but honestly from street driving alone I have never even gotten close to the limit of this car. Hoping to going to the track to change that, but I've always found it to have quite good traction, control, and corners flat.

[damnitBobby]

Seems like ZCP is a no brainer. Thanks for the feedback!

[Throttleblip]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

Wonderful car man! I really like MG and the SO interior.

Thanks man and it looks much better in person

[Throttleblip]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

I agree .. honestly .. I cannot hear it at all now.

Maybe when we try and code it off .. I'll tell the difference.

It was one of the first things we noticed while driving .. completely different sounding inside the car.

I don't hear the ASD either. It now sounds natural and loud as it should.