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Just so you understand where people like me stand:
1) I think its expected that overall, on measurable metrics, the car should perform better Will this convince me to upgrade? No. 1) Personally against the new tech layout; its fussy and overdone. I've spent time in the new gen 3 series and they are just distractions (tech wise) 2) Still dimension wise, too big a car for me. A fast and agile boat, but still a boat. 3) The looks? Enough said. I admire your deep seated defense of the car. Enjoy it in good health, but it's not the car that I'm lookin for. |
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Still not a looker though
Looks to be an amazing performer. Would like the opportunity to drive one, as long as it's late at night... with tinted front windows, and nobody else around.
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06-10-2021, 03:59 PM | #8282 |
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Saw another G8X in person!
But seriously… can we all collectively agree to kill this color already? I swear my vision gets worse every time I see it on any car
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Interesting how he describes the S58 as laggy and the torque converter auto hides the lag, while the lag shows itself with the manual. Last edited by hellrotm; 06-10-2021 at 04:45 PM.. |
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A lot of the "grip feel" you are finding can be attributed to latest tire technology, as well as low-to-the-ground bucket seats if you have them. Good chunks of lap times are tire and seat dependent. On a track, some of us are finding the comp spec is actually slower than F80 due to weight and transmission.
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Base with the faster lap time. Do we have any real world weight #'s for base vs. comp?
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Anec-data time! Years back when the Audi Allroad first came out, we hadn't heard of it but were in the dealership for service work talking to the head of sales we were friendly with ... in the middle of the showroom was the new Allroad, roped off, with an ADM sign on it. Of course I couldn't resist the "whatthefuck is THAT!" Long story short, I check it out, love it, but ADMs were unheard of then and my wife immediately shot it down - well the sales guy said, "Oh that's just for people who come in looking for it or call about it ... I can deal with you guys..." I don't remember what price we walked out with but it wasn't any worse than the A6 we traded in for it. And ANOTHER! Six months ago I emailed a dealership an offer on a 45e, I get an email the next day saying the best they can do is 3% their dealership policy max because market, demand, blah blah blah. Two hours later I get ANOTHER email from a DIFFERENT sales person offering 6% off. Point being, wouldn't be odd at all for a single dealership to offer drastically different prices, i.e., to have the inquiry price vs ad hoc price or for separate sales people at the same dealership to offer different prices depending on where their individual sales numbers are. We tend to think of dealership as monoliths when really they're just a bunch of mercenaries at the same location. |
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None of us will be surprised if, next year, van Hooydonk & Dukec are spending lots of time with family. Seriously - would you be surprised? If your answer is "no" then even you aren't that confident in this design experiment. (we know BMW isn't due to the X3m refresh). And TBH, here's what I've learned from BMW's design debacle: I used to sport drive (not track) every week (quit for covid), frequently running against others, and did so for a decade - those were 80% of my M4 miles - timing using apps, but not super accurate. In short more happy fun time than serious track stuff like maybe CanAutM3 or minn19, but still, performance was / is important. Well, as it turns out, performance is about 30% and looks about 70% - because I can still have just as much (if not more) fun in an E92 which is slower than my F8x - the key is I LOVE walking up to those cars ... they LOOK fast, they look badass, and my fun starts THERE. Before I ever start the car, I'm grinning ear-to-ear ... when I walk out of the grocery store I'm grinning ear-to-ear ... when I drive to work, when I stop at the post office, when I get takeout, when make up an excuse to go somewhere just so I can see the car ... and every time I fight the urge to look back ... I fucking LOVE that. With the G8x I'd be fearful to look at it: To see it's jumbled chaotic lines, its oversized beaver face, its prolapsed anus, its honda accord profile, its charger hood, its weird double toyota trunk line ... I'm just not gonna pay for something I hate to look at, especially when there are so many better options. So, TBH (1.) I'm vain (70%), and (2.) I care more about fun than performance. I mean, I never want to pay for a sports car where 99.9% of people say what I'm thinking, "oh yeah, that modded Camry looks WAY better"
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