Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Cars also depreciate usually, aside from a few chosen ones.

Certain higher end watches, from my little understanding of watches, can be profitable.

Not in 2021 bro. People be selling Subaru Legacies for profits.

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by Arcades

I really doubt there are two teams or I guess another group doing the CS cars.

Most likely what happens is, they already have the highest trim car built/idea in the pipeline, then build down. So, they can make the other cars less aggressive, or track ready because most of the population can't tell the difference anyway.

That is the only thing GT division from Porsche is generally good with. They don't have to worry about having a less than GT car because there aren't a GT3 Lite. BMW basically has there different versions of a M car now, some have 4.

PS well… guess you can count the RS versions.

Porsches GT division is the closest thing to the rawness of the 993 and older aircooled Porsches… when it comes to down to the senses. And yes that’s what pisses me off about BMW now. Everything is an ///M now. I agree..to the average Joe, there are 4 different ///M trims. Are we including the ///M electrified stuff too?

TH and smoking tire have been having the best content as of late.

[Jockey]

New RS3 no slouch. 7:40 time around the ring

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...e-ring-in-7-40

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Jockey

New RS3 no slouch. 7:40 time around the ring

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...e-ring-in-7-40

Going to be a fun car, now that the terminal oversteer is addressed a bit more and you can turn into oversteer mode. What a time to be alive!

[clutchdj]

Looks like it might be fierce. Same engine as the gen1?

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Looks like it might be fierce. Same engine as the gen1?

Turbo inline 5 at 401 hp.

I really wish Audi had manuals because I'd be there in a heartbeat.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by minn19

Also true and good points. The vehicle thing was for those of us that do occasionally track/autocross or track often. Even backroad/canyon runs etc etc. One Honda and one Acura can do those things well. Almost all watches last a long time and tell time very well is my main point.

Also definitely agreed on the finer things in life.

FYI, 99% of watches are pussies, so it's not different, the same things are true with cars & watches: "performance experience" is about accuracy and ability under stress.

For example, my house in MN was struck by lightning, twice! anyway, both times, it created a local EMP that knocked out every electronic thing in the house - if it had a circuit board it was fried. EV.RY.THING. Not my mechanical watches though! Still worked great.

You can extend that "watch performance" to motorcycle riding, gun shootin, golf, and anything with lots of vibration / magnetic fields / impacts or to diving, anything with depth/pressure, or to just plain ole fell on the floor or hit a metal door jamb.

And, for some, the current time is life & death; you probably want to be fault tolerant there ...

A car is for basic transpo - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

A watch is for basic time telling - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

Just sayin

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

FYI, 99% of watches are pussies, so it's not different, the same things are true with cars & watches: "performance experience" is about accuracy and ability under stress.

For example, my house in MN was struck by lightning, twice! anyway, both times, it created a local EMP that knocked out every electronic thing in the house - if it had a circuit board it was fried. EV.RY.THING. Not my mechanical watches though! Still worked great.

You can extend that "watch performance" to motorcycle riding, gun shootin, golf, and anything with lots of vibration / magnetic fields / impacts or to diving, anything with depth/pressure, or to just plain ole fell on the floor or hit a metal door jamb.

And, for some, the current time is life & death; you probably want to be fault tolerant there ...

A car is for basic transpo - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

A watch is for basic time telling - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

Just sayin

Mmm no, most of those high end watches are for dick measuring contests at business trips/meetings.

Just sayin.

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Turbo inline 5 at 401 hp.

I really wish Audi had manuals because I'd be there in a heartbeat.

Agree.

Didn't a g82 just run a 7:30?

the rs3 is cleary on some form of a street tire, with the way they were screaming with the moments of understeer. and it ran a 7:40?

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by minn19

Mmm no, most of those high end watches are for dick measuring contests at business trips/meetings.

You mean most of the high end watches YOU know about ...

For example the Sinn EZM 12 "pulse rotor" ($3800) is magnetically resistant to withstand high gauss fields (factories, exploding transformers, lightning), pressure resistant (water & air), has a tegimented steel case & carbon coated screwed-on bezel so if it pops off the guts don't come out, etc & other stuff you don't care about. It's built to take a lot of abuse.



Most importantly the straps are hand-detachable so you can clean off blood easily.

Basically it's the obscure German Willys of watches made specifically for civilian & military air rescue service - like for people who might have to measure heart beats or use the time for navigation and people could die if their watch doesn't work because of easily foreseen fault modes like magnets, shock, & vibration.

It's the watch Sedan_Clan should have - g-shocks are great, and I'd have one in my pack or pocket, but if I was a cop I'd wear a Sinn.

I get you don't appreciate that stuff, but don't let ignorance of use-case & the market bias your thinking - some pros actually use this kind of stuff!


ANYway, as we all know, "high-end" cars are DEFINITELY never used for dick measuring, and certainly never during a business meeting or trip!

I mean, when was the last time you saw a lawyer pull up in Porsche or a group of consultants show up in an Escalade???

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

You mean most of the high end watches YOU know about ...

For example the Sinn EZM 12 "pulse rotor" ($3800) is magnetically resistant to withstand high gauss fields (factories, exploding transformers, lightning), pressure resistant (water & air), has a tegimented steel case & carbon coated screwed-on bezel so if it pops off the guts don't come out, etc & other stuff you don't care about. It's built to take a lot of abuse.

[img]https://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/c...I-419-alt1.jpg[/img]

Most importantly the straps are hand-detachable so you can clean off blood easily.

Basically it's the obscure German Willys of watches made specifically for civilian & military air rescue service - like for people who might have to measure heart beats or use the time for navigation and people could die if their watch doesn't work because of easily foreseen fault modes like magnets, shock, & vibration.

It's the watch Sedan_Clan should have - g-shocks are great, and I'd have one in my pack or pocket, but if I was a cop I'd wear a Sinn.

I get you don't appreciate that stuff, but don't let ignorance of use-case & the market bias your thinking - some pros actually use this kind of stuff!


ANYway, as we all know, "high-end" cars are DEFINITELY never used for dick measuring, and certainly never during a business meeting or trip!

I mean, when was the last time you saw a lawyer pull up in Porsche or a group of consultants show up in an Escalade???

I mean…..I see high end professionals in high end cars all of the time; usually a big Benz S-Class or BMW 7 Series. I've also seen them in Range Rovers and Escalades. I have yet to see any jump out of Porsches, but a Porsche 911 is pretty useless for the tasks you mentioned.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I mean…..I see high end professionals in high end cars all of the time; usually a big Benz S-Class or BMW 7 Series. I've also seen them in Range Rovers and Escalades. I have yet to see any jump out of Porsches, but a Porsche 911 is pretty useless for the tasks you mentioned.

I'm not sure what that means, but back to cars, at least around the bay area & newport beach, the business meeting dick-measure answer to "who's driving?" is "I can, but I only have room for one person"

A few examples from business meetings of days past:

"only room for 1"



"sorry! Only room for 1!"

[Sedan_Clan]

A group of consultants can't show up in a 911, hence my statement. They can, however, show up in an Escalade.

Interestingly enough, I've heard many execs lament that it feels weird to show up in anything more than a luxury sedan or SUV. Something about the perception among clients….

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A group of consultants can't show up in a 911, hence my statement. They can, however, show up in an Escalade.

Interestingly enough, I've heard many execs lament that it feels weird to show up in anymore more than a luxury sedan or SUV. Something about the perception among clients….

Corp execs, VCs, and tech bros, on the other hand, have no problems showing up to business meetings in porsches & Ferraris!

Switching topics ...

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A group of consultants can't show up in a 911, hence my statement. They can, however, show up in an Escalade.

Interestingly enough, I've heard many execs lament that it feels weird to show up in anything more than a luxury sedan or SUV. Something about the perception among clients….

Unless your clients are hired hitmen and your pseudonym is "The Wolf", then you arrive in a 90s Acura NSX.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Same engine as the gen1?

That depends on who you ask. There were three engines in two generations of the RS 3.

To be very annoyingly pedant, first RS 3 was this, 8PA generation with a 340PS EA855 CZGB motor.



Same engine, which had a cast iron block, was then in the next car, the early (last gen) 367PS 8VA hatchbacks and 8S TT RS. Then, with the introduction of the RS 3 Sedan, which is the one you've got in the US, Audi introduced the 400PS EA855evo engine with an aluminium block instead of iron. Code DAZA and DNWA (EU OPF version).

I believe the new shape car has got the same 855evo lump.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

A car is for basic transpo - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

A watch is for basic time telling - a "performance experience" is the ability to take abuse and stay functional & accurate.

Just sayin

A watch is for basic colour shades comparisons - a "visual experience" is the ability to tell your abused missus to share her arse on Facebook and stay relevant amongst fellow watch enthusiasts.

[swagon]

Oh, and

A watch is for beaver protection - a "performance experience" is the ability to dodge or hide from undesirable beavers you may encounter in your life.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

You mean most of the high end watches YOU know about ...

For example the Sinn EZM 12 "pulse rotor" ($3800) is magnetically resistant to withstand high gauss fields (factories, exploding transformers, lightning), pressure resistant (water & air), has a tegimented steel case & carbon coated screwed-on bezel so if it pops off the guts don't come out, etc & other stuff you don't care about. It's built to take a lot of abuse.



Most importantly the straps are hand-detachable so you can clean off blood easily.

Basically it's the obscure German Willys of watches made specifically for civilian & military air rescue service - like for people who might have to measure heart beats or use the time for navigation and people could die if their watch doesn't work because of easily foreseen fault modes like magnets, shock, & vibration.

It's the watch Sedan_Clan should have - g-shocks are great, and I'd have one in my pack or pocket, but if I was a cop I'd wear a Sinn.

I get you don't appreciate that stuff, but don't let ignorance of use-case & the market bias your thinking - some pros actually use this kind of stuff!


ANYway, as we all know, "high-end" cars are DEFINITELY never used for dick measuring, and certainly never during a business meeting or trip!

I mean, when was the last time you saw a lawyer pull up in Porsche or a group of consultants show up in an Escalade???

Oh already covered the car part. The vast majority of high end anything is for status/dick measuring. Most of these companies can’t survive on only the pros that actually use it for their intended purpose. I did say I respect and think the engineering/look is cool. Everyone is different though and I don’t like to spend my money on things that I know I won’t use. Hence why I have a regular F-150 instead of a Raptor. A Raptor is cool looking etc but I’d never use its capabilities so I don’t drive one around pretending I’m an off road junky. AKA dick measuring.

My favorite is the suburban/neighborhood accountant that has an expensive 5 year old Harley with 600 miles on it. But he is bad ass.

[rmanm4]

Originally Posted by swagon

Oh, and

A watch is for beaver protection - a "performance experience" is the ability to dodge or hide from undesirable beavers you may encounter in your life.

Even with its beaver covered up its fucken ugly!

Instead of a bulge on the hood it has indents!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

Unless your clients are hired hitmen and your pseudonym is "The Wolf", then you arrive in a 90s Acura NSX.

You better return it the same condition you got it.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Corp execs, VCs, and tech bros, on the other hand, have no problems showing up to business meetings in porsches & Ferraris!

Switching topics ...

Frank is speaking everything that I've been saying! But obviously articulating it 1000x better lol. Proportions, shapes, angles, language, literally everything is off! Literally a bunch of words with no actual sentence being formed. It's not a question of traditionalists vs new guard, or personal preference… it's literally just that BMW is straight up putting out ugly cars. They perform well, have all the bells and whistles, but they are just butt fkn ugly and I'm not looking at this from a BMW fan perspective.

Also, the power dome has been bothering me since launch as I think it's way too large and on my way back from work yesterday I saw exactly what it reminded me of…

[IMG]https://www.jeep.com/content/dam/fca...image.1000.jpg[/IMG]

In b4 "PrOgReSs IsNt FoR eVeRyOnE" "So MoDeRn, lAsT oNe Is DaTeD" "So AgGrEsSiVe"