AA tune or JB STAGE 1 or JB4? *Help*

[Kr3st]

Originally Posted by mark5092

6MT or DCT? No misfires? Have you regapped spark plugs or still using factory plugs with factory gap?

DCT. No regapping and still using factory plugs.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by mark5092

I run Active 8 tuner on map 5 and consistently pull my friends M4 by half to full car length. He runs map 2 on JB4 and we both use 93 octane from same gas station. We both have catless downpipes and ER charge pipes.

My car is stronger in bottom end and mid range than his. He cuts the distance down in the top end. If I went back to map 6 I would have stronger top end. Andrew at AA told me max boost on map 5 is 21.7 and map 6 is 22 psi. Like how linear the power is with Active 8.

Nice !

[mark5092]

Originally Posted by Kr3st

DCT. No regapping and still using factory plugs.

Same here!

[buddster]

The dyno's for the Active 8 seem to show an increase in power below 3000 RPM. Is that the case? Increases from the flash tunes and JB4 start at 3k and go from there. Is there more low end boost in the Active 8?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by buddster

The dyno's for the Active 8 seem to show an increase in power below 3000 RPM. Is that the case? Increases from the flash tunes and JB4 start at 3k and go from there. Is there more low end boost in the Active 8?

We can configure it anyway we like but we starting increasing boost around 2k. Keep in mind With our full exhaust we have made 360 Wheel tq at 3k rpm +40 Wtq due to less restrictions allowing the turbo to spool quicker.

Stock car *Only Mod Active-8*

[chihaohsia]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Have not seen any dyno on 91 but the results should be similar to all other stage 1 tunes.
With Active you have the option to pick any map from very conservative to super aggressive

All in all, which one would you recommend? AA or JB Stage 1?

Thanks

[chihaohsia]

Originally Posted by aclockwrk

Right now I have it set to the 93 octane map, if i remember its set to 6, which is about +5psi. i can raise it another couple notches for .3 psi extra for each notch. I have a 6 speed so you can imagine getting a good start is hit and miss with the wheel spin. I had all highway runs, in Mexico of course no other cars on road. 1st was a 2015 Corvette, Auto, didn't kill him but was steadily pulling away from him. Next was a 2015 Charger scat pack, sounded real nice, he didn't stand a chance, kept on pulling on him, he wouldn't give up, i got tired of wasting gas after the 4th time and just let him go.

How many maps are there? You are set to 6 so what kind of power are you looking at? Roughly.

Thanks

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by chihaohsia

All in all, which one would you recommend? AA or JB Stage 1?

Thanks

Depends on what you are looking for

AA offers more than the stage 1 JB but is almost double the price

quick summary:

JB stage 1, very easy and quick install ... +4 psi

AA tune more like a stage 1.5 with similar power than the JB stage 1 but a smoother delivery(install is medium difficulty)

JB4 offers more than both but has the a more complex install

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by buddster

The dyno's for the Active 8 seem to show an increase in power below 3000 RPM. Is that the case? Increases from the flash tunes and JB4 start at 3k and go from there. Is there more low end boost in the Active 8?

The JB Stage1 is an additive mapping system, so it adds boost throughout the entire power band.

Mike

[teefive]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Depends on what you are looking for

AA offers more than the stage 1 JB but is almost double the price

quick summary:

JB stage 1, very easy and quick install ... +4 psi

AA tune more like a stage 1.5 with similar power than the JB stage 1 but a smoother delivery(install is medium difficulty)

JB4 offers more than both but has the a more complex install

What makes the AA tune smoother? I thought the only difference was the rpm sensor, and it seems the added boost is somewhat consistent through the rpm range?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by teefive

What makes the AA tune smoother? I thought the only difference was the rpm sensor, and it seems the added boost is somewhat consistent through the rpm range?

Correct the AA connects to the cam sensor and can add boost by rpm ... Based on our customers and forum users, AA power delivery is very smooth compared to other stage 1

Note: When i said AA is smoother, i meant compared to the JB stage 1 and not the JB4

[DanSala]

Originally Posted by ///M Leistung

I have the BMS stage 1 tune on my F82. At $380, it's pretty good bang for the buck. Easy 4 wire, plug & play install.

It wakes the the car up a little bit more, without out being unmanageable for the street. It's all the "go juice" you need for a DD.

I just ordered one im very excited

[hdubf80]

Originally Posted by DanSala

I just ordered one im very excited

Let us know how you like it. Gonna pull the trigger on one soon...

[JoeyBananas]

So you can order the full JB4 and this would be the equivalent to MAP1?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by DanSala

I just ordered one im very excited

Congrats!!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by JoeyBananas

So you can order the full JB4 and this would be the equivalent to MAP1?

Jb4 with map 1 is equivalent to JB stage 1 for the S55 (plus all the extra features of course)

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by hdubf80

Let us know how you like it. Gonna pull the trigger on one soon...

We will get it delivered to him asap

[JoeyBananas]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Jb4 with map 1 is equivalent to JB stage 1 for the S55 (plus all the extra features of course)

Great thanks

[hdubf80]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We will get it delivered to him asap

So BMS stage 1 gives 30-50whp (roughly 40) is that with 93 or 91 octane? I live in Cali and we have 91 so what should I expect for gains? Also if I get jb4 map 2 with vrsf DP's and full awe system what should I expects numbers to be in the ballpark with 91 octane as I'm assuming most these numbers and graphs are with 93 or higher?

[pdx_m3r]

Does anyone know of the BMS stage 1 uses the BC buttons for any settings? I believe the JB4 uses this to cycle through the different MAPS. Reason I ask is because I have the Macht Schnell electronic valve controller with also uses the BC button to cycle through the valve programs. I would like to install the stage 1 on top of my EVC module. Thanks in advance.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by pdx_m3r

Does anyone know of the BMS stage 1 uses the BC buttons for any settings? I believe the JB4 uses this to cycle through the different MAPS. Reason I ask is because I have the Macht Schnell electronic valve controller with also uses the BC button to cycle through the valve programs. I would like to install the stage 1 on top of my EVC module. Thanks in advance.

No the Stage1 does not use the buttons, as that requires CAN access which only the JB4 has.

The stage1 only has one map, so there is no cycling needed.

Mike

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by hdubf80

So BMS stage 1 gives 30-50whp (roughly 40) is that with 93 or 91 octane? I live in Cali and we have 91 so what should I expect for gains? Also if I get jb4 map 2 with vrsf DP's and full awe system what should I expects numbers to be in the ballpark with 91 octane as I'm assuming most these numbers and graphs are with 93 or higher?

Stage 1 will add +4 psi whether you are on 91 or 93, gains should be similar for both octanes

Looking at dyno below, DP + JB4 on map 1 should give you close to ~480 whp