[Updated with Q&A] - New M4 M Performance Parts at SEMA 2015

[Never Convicted]

Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

You can bet that they'll be more expensive than the KW kit that they're based on. Somebody has to pay for all of that 'ring time development after all. Whether they come in below or above the dinan kit price is the $64k question IMO.

I'll bet the BMW kit is the same or less than the KW kit. Who's going to buy more of these, the Mother Ship or all the KW distributors in the USA? BMW will hammer them for price based on volume, it's what the OEM's do. Plus, there'll be the convenience of building it into the price of the car.

[chillindrdude]

i'm very interested in the M-performance suspension. i wonder if it will be cheaper than the bilstein offering.

[MFNATIK]

Is the new steering wheel heated?

[MilM4]

That steering wheel! I can live with the small alcantara sides of the steering wheel for the leather and CF trim. Question is, what organ will I have to sell to buy it?

[Daft]

The rear cf diffuser. What's different in this one than the one that has already been out for over a year now?

[FLOSS M]

Is this HAS kit identical to KW HAS?

Why would they develop 2 different ones?

[SamS]

I like the idea of a BMW HAS, but at -20mm drop, that front looks looooow. Scrape city.

[yellowssm]

Originally Posted by psuwcc112

Thanks for the update. It is ironic those HAS system is made by KW, maybe KW HAS can finally get some better rep and credit for their kit. For those would like to retain the factory warranty, if the final pricing for this kit is similar to Dinan, not sure who will buy the Dinan set up anymore..

I haven't heard any negatives on the HAS system. I narrowed it down to HAS or swift springs

[Pharmacist_]

Can someone tell me the diff for the diffuser vs what was available previously? Are the blades longer?

Edit: forgot to mention that not offering side blades for the F80 is bs. Even the ats-v offers it from the factory. Hard to imagine they wouldn't get their roi on that.

[DCG]

Stickers just don't make things have more "performance". The steering-wheel is nice and it should be stock. BMW M please just make a Competition Package, or just make the stock M a Competition Package and be done with it! And I like my wheels in black!

[Stevens21234]

no power bump questions? aka if there will be a performance power pack upgrade?

[RJVIII]

Do we think that steering wheel retains the heated functionality from the exec pack?

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by Never Convicted

I'll bet the BMW kit is the same or less than the KW kit. Who's going to buy more of these, the Mother Ship or all the KW distributors in the USA? BMW will hammer them for price based on volume, it's what the OEM's do. Plus, there'll be the convenience of building it into the price of the car.

I don't disagree with anything you've said about the economics of their "partnership", but I'd still wager that they're priced at ~$1k. They do retain the factory warranty, which in-and-of itself adds some value. Then there's the additional "R&D".

I do hope that you're right, but I'm expecting otherwise

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by RJVIII

Do we think that steering wheel retains the heated functionality from the exec pack?

The existing two don't, so if we're just "thinking"/guessing, I'd wager that this one too, does not.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

I don't disagree with anything you've said about the economics of their "partnership", but I'd still wager that they're priced at ~$1k. They do retain the factory warranty, which in-and-of itself adds some value. Then there's the additional "R&D".

I do hope that you're right, but I'm expecting otherwise

If it is priced around the 1k mark then it would be a great deal compared to getting aftermarket springs.

[bclemans]

Photo 1 shows a few more M performance cars in the background. Do you have pics for those too? Thanks much

[aw_330i]

so if the suspension is based off of the KW HAS kit but different spring rate, then can i assume it will be progressive springs?

If it is then why are we concerned about linear vs progressive if the M team themselves think it is ok to use progressive?

Assuming linear is the better option


Also they are lowering on stock shocks? So now the M team is telling the general public that lowering your car on stock shocks will make the car handle better?

[FLOSS M]

Originally Posted by aw_330i

so if the suspension is based off of the KW HAS kit but different spring rate, then can i assume it will be progressive springs?

If it is then why are we concerned about linear vs progressive if the M team themselves think it is ok to use progressive?

Assuming linear is the better option


Also they are lowering on stock shocks? So now the M team is telling the general public that lowering your car on stock shocks will make the car handle better?

claiming to use factory shocks so I guess so

[Arcades]

Hmm so M Perf shocks keep our Adaptive Suspension, now I want it...

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Hmm so M Perf shocks keep our Adaptive Suspension, now I want it...

Its a sleeve over kit not new shocks AFAIK. This sounds just like re-branded KW HAS. I am interested to see the spring rate differences as I already have the HAS kit.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Its a sleeve over kit not new shocks AFAIK. This sounds just like re-branded KW HAS. I am interested to see the spring rate differences as I already have the HAS kit.

I'm hoping it does from the Q&A, otherwise what's the point?

I don't want my dealership to code off the error from M Adaptive missing. (Cough rr006rbc :P)

[stranger]

I have the acs springs which provides a warranty on oem shock for the duration of your Bmw warranty

So the difference is there height adjustable