Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by CT_M3

New post by Robert Mitchell on the ‘V10’ M2.

Is he on this thread? He's like dead on lol

[swagon]

I wouldn't make a great deal out of that M2 CS video, like it's another sign of a falling company.

It was posted on the US IG account, not the GmbH corporate one so Flasch & Co. probably had not even seen it. Lol

BMW NA outsourced it to a marketing company whose employees know nothing about cars and for added excitement and better audio quality, added a new sound layer from their archive. BMW NA employee posted it without listening to it. Idk.

Rendez vous also featurd awful dubbed over engine sounds.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by swagon

I wouldn't make a great deal out of that M2 CS video, like it's another sign of a falling company.

It was posted on the US IG account, not the GmbH corporate one so Flasch & Co. probably had not even seen it. Lol

BMW NA outsourced it to a marketing company whose employees know nothing about cars and for added excitement and better audio quality, added a new sound layer from their archive. BMW NA employee posted it without listening to it. Idk.

Rendez vous also featurd awful dubbed over engine sounds.

As a brand I've admired and supported over the past 20+ years, I'm really just sad at this point that they have lost their way. If there was one thing that has been consistent in my adult life, outside of family and friends, owning and driving BMWs was it. Now when I get asked about what I think about the current crop of cars, I have to say that I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable recommending it and there may be better options. It's happened a few times already where I had to steer people to other marques bc I didn't think BMW had the best car in the segment, or at least a car good enough to justify influencing someone to get.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

As a brand I've admired and supported over the past 20+ years, I'm really just sad at this point that they have lost their way. If there was one thing that has been consistent in my adult life, outside of family and friends, owning and driving BMWs was it. Now when I get asked about what I think about the current crop of cars, I have to say that I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable recommending it and there may be better options. It's happened a few times already where I had to steer people to other marques bc I didn't think BMW had the best car in the segment, or at least a car good enough to justify influencing someone to get.

Mate, I get it. I, too, have complained in this thread many a time.

It's just that I don't see this M2 CS video as big of a debacle as their other recent marketing shenanigans, i.e. tweets or the 2GC/G8x launch films.

Upon further inspection, this does not sound like an s55 either lol.

always heavily edited sounds and they almost never match the driving in the footage.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by swagon

Mate, I get it. I, too, have complained in this thread many a time.

It's just that I don't see this M2 CS video as big of a debacle as their other recent marketing shenanigans, i.e. tweets or the 2GC/G8x launch films.

Upon further inspection, this does not sound like an s55 either lol.

I mean they took a horrible sounding car (anything with S55) and made it good for this Ad. I cant blame them but in todays world the internet will eat them alive.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I mean they took a horrible sounding car (anything with S55) and made it good for this Ad. I cant blame them but in todays world the internet will eat them alive.

Why would you ever buy the same car twice even though you hate the sound of it is beyond me.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

I remember reading and watiching videos of the VED concept and thought wow this so cool, this may be my next car in a few years.

https://www.thecoolist.com/bmw-visio...amics-concept/


Then the I5 rumor came out and thought this might be it:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/t...eslas-model-s/


Then they cancelled it and wasted years developing the next gen chassis probably due to greed and poor strategy:

https://www.bmwblog.com/2017/05/23/b...ric-car-plans/

IIRC BMW could not realize meaningful cost reductions with regards to the carbon fiber construction.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by swagon

Mate, I get it. I, too, have complained in this thread many a time.

It's just that I don't see this M2 CS video as big of a debacle as their other recent marketing shenanigans, i.e. tweets or the 2GC/G8x launch films.

Upon further inspection, this does not sound like an s55 either lol.

always heavily edited sounds and they almost never match the driving in the footage.

That sounds like a combination of in cabin ASD and S55 to me. There is a brief couple seconds where there is a clear non-S55 note (at startup of the cars), but by in large, the engine sounds seem within the realm of S55 noises to my ears. Even has full unedited S55 acceleration at the end.

That video is no where near as egregious as the new year M2 video IMO

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by swagon

Why would you ever buy the same car twice even though you hate the sound of it is beyond me.

“Comp pack fixed it”. I got duped. Shoulda waited to hear it but it was one of the first delivered.

The same reason when I now hear “EL fixes it” Im like suuuuure.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by dmk08

“Comp pack fixed it”. I got duped. Shoulda waited to hear it but it was one of the first delivered.

The same reason when I now hear “EL fixes it” Im like suuuuure.

An ex is an ex for a reason, always.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Well didnt get banned but I got censored in the Tanzanite 440 thread. Booooo!

Just don't argue with a moderator over how their behavior was making it worse. They will temp ban. I know from experience.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by swagon

An ex is an ex for a reason, always.

Life lesson learned. Its why I have been able to keep talking myself out of an M2 comp.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

As a brand I've admired and supported over the past 20+ years, I'm really just sad at this point that they have lost their way. If there was one thing that has been consistent in my adult life, outside of family and friends, owning and driving BMWs was it. Now when I get asked about what I think about the current crop of cars, I have to say that I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable recommending it and there may be better options. It's happened a few times already where I had to steer people to other marques bc I didn't think BMW had the best car in the segment, or at least a car good enough to justify influencing someone to get.

All of my close friends are BMW people, so I don't need to influence them (they are... EXTREMELY close to the brand via family). They know their stuff as well as I do, so they can make that decision on their own.

My best friend knows I am aiming into Porsche now after seeing this but I won't tell them not to get something they like. However, I hope they see the writing on the wall when it comes to BMW, at least as of right now. Unless something dramatic changes with BMW and it's culture, I really don't think, personally, I would be back into a BMW.

The irony is... I don't mind the 3 series still but... I want to try something else. Been thinking of the Lexus IS350 with the V8 because my father likes Japanese imports. It could be something I end up getting, if my GT4 plan ends up happening this year.

[carguy138]

Can't believe I am going to say this... Is BMW trying to kill off the M and motorsport side of the brand and essentially become the German "Tesla"?

I initially chalked up this campaign to incompetence but starting to wonder if it's intentional.

The M3 has always been the standard by which other sport sedans were measured against. This is absolutely nuts.

[stein_325i]

Interesting Cammisa Verdict on the new M440i. He makes many points I definitely agree with, but the one that hit hard was that he talks about how the car is capable, it just doesn't feel it, which is what I really felt when I drove the new 3-series.

A few stand out lines.

Originally Posted by Jason Cammisa

Elephant in the room: ever notice that the word “nostrils” begins with “no?”⁣
⁣...⁣
My problem with it: it’s not identifiable as a BMW: it could be an Infiniti. Or a Lexus. Or a Honda Accord Coupe. Why is the front overhang so long? ⁣And why do the rear wheels look 3” smaller than the fronts? Seriously. Look at the side shot. There’s something terribly wrong with the rear quarter’s design.⁣ It’s also the size of a house.
...
And speaking of Mercedes, I can’t help but think that this M440i would make a better Benz than Bimmer. Think hardtop SL: luxurious, fast, expensive. ⁣And with a face only a nearsighted chipmunk could love.⁣

[stein_325i]

Also look at how much of that damn front end is blocked off.

[pbar]

Originally Posted by carguy138

Can't believe I am going to say this... Is BMW trying to kill off the M and motorsport side of the brand and essentially become the German "Tesla"?

I initially chalked up this campaign to incompetence but starting to wonder if it's intentional.

The M3 has always been the standard by which other sport sedans were measured against. This is absolutely nuts.

If BMW wanted to be the German Tesla then they have a really big problem - the Porsche Taycan and Audi e-Tron GT already exist, apparently handle well, and are likely to be much more appealing EVs for enthusiasts than a G30 with a crap-ton of batteries stuffed under the floor.

I realize that BMW are probably terrified by the fact that the EU are essentially banning internal combustion in the next 15 years. This is probably why all the current cars are being compromised to offset the engineering costs of EV models. I don't imagine there will be an IC successor to the G8x.

[pbar]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Also look at how much of that damn front end is blocked off.

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Just how many obviously different patterns can you fit into two nostrils?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by pbar

Just how many obviously different patterns can you fit into two nostrils?

Wow I never noticed, now my OCD is going crazy! There's horizontal, vertical, circles, hexagons, diamonds, overlapping, large and small gaps etc.!!!

[dmk08]

I think I can finally say I dont care about M3s anymore and Ive frankly stopped caring about BMW performance cars. We should have all known it was about to go downhill when they decided to make the 2 door an “M4” instead of an M3.

Now that the x5 is on the way and Im going back to a 2 car scenario I think its time for another 911. 991 C2S 7MT I'm thinking.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Also look at how much of that damn front end is blocked off.

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It's just a mess. I feel sorry for anyone that thinks that looks great.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

It's just a mess. I feel sorry for anyone that thinks that looks great.

“It'll grow on you”. No, no it wont.

Frankly why should I need it to grow on me. Looks wise the e46, e92, and f80 M3s were swoon worthy the instant I saw them. Sure I had gripes about all of these cars but it wasn't ever the looks.