Bird droppings, again

titan7 · 10-12-2019, 05:23 PM

So, to enjoy my cars I have to drive them outside, lol. My question is, how I can avoid slight etching in the clear? I mean I take a 30 min drive and get back to the garage and there are a couple tiny round yellow drops, I carefully remove them it there is the classic transparent circle from where the dropping was. I mean I can’t know when a bird dropping hits the paint, I can’t realistically pull over every 5 minutes to check the paint. What are you guys doing?

I guess after the next wash I can take some maguires #9 on my finger tip and that should remove it.

Ok rant over, just wondering what you guys do.

CachacoF80 · 10-12-2019, 05:32 PM

Relax and forget about those little things...

titan7 · 10-12-2019, 05:44 PM

I wish, the OCD runs deep.

MrSmartyPants · 10-12-2019, 06:17 PM

I use some quick detailer for this kind of thing. Spray on, wipe off with with a clean towel.

jdgamble · 10-12-2019, 11:47 PM

Get urself a DA polisher and some good polish. Done. It’s like a $250ish investment with some pads and you can clean up your own paint.

I recommend a Griots G9 polisher if you go that route.

CachacoF80 · 10-12-2019, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by titan7

I wish, the OCD runs deep.

OCD = shorter and stressful life

This means less opportunity to buy new cars and drive them as they are meant to.

M 4 FUN · 10-13-2019, 05:16 AM

Clear wrap it, the best you can do. I wrapped my whole car and i love it. No etch marks, no stonechips, no scratches.

MrSmartyPants · 10-13-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

Clear wrap it, the best you can do. I wrapped my whole car and i love it. No etch marks, no stonechips, no scratches.

Yes but the PPF is very susceptible to etching from bugs and bird poo too. Maybe vinyl wrap isnt as bad. Dunno.

If you catch it early a quick stay and wipe with Detsil Spray or quick detailer does the trick.

M 4 FUN · 10-13-2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSmartyPants

Yes but the PPF is very susceptible to etching from bugs and bird poo too. Maybe vinyl wrap isnt as bad. Dunno.

If you catch it early a quick stay and wipe with Detsil Spray or quick detailer does the trick.

I haven't seen any marks from insects on my film. It's hydrophobic too so nothing really sticks to it. I also use some detailer on it now and then.

titan7 · 10-13-2019, 01:46 PM

I look over the car after every drive and use quick detail spray, but realistically I can’t stop every 5 minutes. It only takes a few minutes for etching to happen. This is a spot that is 1/16” circle or smaller. Most of the time I can get it off with no cloud left, appears this bird was different. I am thinking M205 or #9 swirl remover on my fingertip should remove it. I think a DA machine would be overkill. Most of the car, 90% is covered with PPF, this spot is on the rear deck.

arucano · 10-13-2019, 09:17 PM

Make sure you have a good coat of wax or other protection. I have had droppings that I wipe off at the end of the day (in hot Houston sun) and do not have problems with etching. Although Carnuba is not very heat resistant it works great. I use Meguire's synthetic sealant (either the M21 pro or Ultimate car wax and use quick detailer spray and a soft microfiber towel to wipe it off after wetting with the quick detailer spray and giving it a minute or so to soften the stuff
Good luck.

andrewBM4 · 10-14-2019, 09:46 AM

Hey, I'm a luxury car detailer from Toronto and I just picked up a 2016 m4. I'm also new to the forums as this is my first post!
I would agree with some people advising get a wax for protection but that won't last you much once you get a nice rain fall. The best two ways that you will not get etching in the clear would be either to ppf the car or do a ceramic coating from a high quality and reputable brand. And some ppl go the extra mile (deep pocket lol) and they will ppf the whole car and ceramic coat right on top.

danchee · 10-14-2019, 10:37 PM

If it's that bad, you should just garage the car and never drive it

Or maybe get some track wrap https://www.trakktape.com/

N1rve · 10-14-2019, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSmartyPants

Yes but the PPF is very susceptible to etching from bugs and bird poo too. Maybe vinyl wrap isnt as bad. Dunno.

If you catch it early a quick stay and wipe with Detsil Spray or quick detailer does the trick.

Vinyl isn't as durable as PPF, it's thinner and there aren't any healing properties.

But I wrapped my entire car to prevent droppings and stuff from etching.

allinon72 · 10-15-2019, 07:25 AM

PPF/ceramic coating, or both. In the off chance that the PPF gets etched, it can be replaced. Pay special attention to the carbon roof if you have one, the clearcoat is extremely soft and susceptible to damage.

hellokitty · 10-17-2019, 12:51 AM

Get a polisher and ceramic coat it yourself.

Do a maintenance layer of Gtechniq Liquid Crystal every 2-3 months and you’ll be happy with the results.

Also get Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash and use 3 oz with 1 gallon of distilled water for the ultimate quick detailer solution. A tiny bottle lasted me over a year.

allinon72 · 10-17-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hellokitty

Get a polisher and ceramic coat it yourself.

Do a maintenance layer of Gtechniq Liquid Crystal every 2-3 months and you’ll be happy with the results.

Also get Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash and use 3 oz with 1 gallon of distilled water for the ultimate quick detailer solution. A tiny bottle lasted me over a year.

Every 2-3 months

That might be overkill.

hellokitty · 10-17-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by allinon72

Every 2-3 months

That might be overkill.

I'm OCD with plenty of time on my hands... lol

Narcosis · 10-17-2019, 11:08 AM

Would ceramic coating help ease your mind re: the bird shit? I've received quotes from $1500-2k to do my M4, just haven't scraped together the $$ for it yet.

allinon72 · 10-18-2019, 08:40 AM

There's no way I would pay that for ceramic coating. There are too many variables that could ruin the coating. Say you take your car to the dealer and they accidentally wash it - poof that 2k goes up in smoke. Plus you'll get 1.5, maybe 2 years out of a coating and it needs done again.

I just coated my car for about $300 in materials and roughly 8 hours of my labor. Now at that price point, it makes sense. Same with my Raptor at about $400 and 12 hours (needed more paint correction).

icegrill · 10-18-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcosis

Would ceramic coating help ease your mind re: the bird shit? I've received quotes from $1500-2k to do my M4, just haven't scraped together the $$ for it yet.

Get McKees ceramic coating. Very diy friendly, with amazing results.

destriero · 10-20-2019, 08:31 AM

You will be amazed at the level of protection with a ceramic coating. I wasn’t a believer until I saw thing like bird shit come right off and leave no trace.

10-12-2019, 05:23 PM	#1
titan7 Private First Class 39 Rep 149 Posts Drives: X3 M40 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Peoria, AZ iTrader: (1)	Bird droppings, again So, to enjoy my cars I have to drive them outside, lol. My question is, how I can avoid slight etching in the clear? I mean I take a 30 min drive and get back to the garage and there are a couple tiny round yellow drops, I carefully remove them it there is the classic transparent circle from where the dropping was. I mean I can’t know when a bird dropping hits the paint, I can’t realistically pull over every 5 minutes to check the paint. What are you guys doing? I guess after the next wash I can take some maguires #9 on my finger tip and that should remove it. Ok rant over, just wondering what you guys do. __________________ Current Rides : 2024 X3 M40, 2021 Corolla Hybrid Past: 2008 328i, 2008 535i, 2012 135 vert, 2015 m235 vert, 2017 Porsche 911, 2018 M4 ZCP, 2021 X3 M40 Last edited by titan7; 10-12-2019 at 05:42 PM..
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titan7 Private First Class 39 Rep 149 Posts Drives: X3 M40 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Peoria, AZ iTrader: (1)	I wish, the OCD runs deep. __________________ Current Rides : 2024 X3 M40, 2021 Corolla Hybrid Past: 2008 328i, 2008 535i, 2012 135 vert, 2015 m235 vert, 2017 Porsche 911, 2018 M4 ZCP, 2021 X3 M40
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MrSmartyPants Lieutenant 360 Rep 500 Posts Drives: F80 M3 - 6MT_MW on SO Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: CT iTrader: (1)	I use some quick detailer for this kind of thing. Spray on, wipe off with with a clean towel.
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10-12-2019, 11:47 PM	#5
jdgamble Captain 298 Rep 798 Posts Drives: 18 CQM M3 - My family car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Danville, CA iTrader: (0)	Get urself a DA polisher and some good polish. Done. It’s like a $250ish investment with some pads and you can clean up your own paint. I recommend a Griots G9 polisher if you go that route.
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10-13-2019, 05:16 AM	#7
M 4 FUN Captain 605 Rep 642 Posts Drives: 320 Si, M4 comp. M3 E46 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Clear wrap it, the best you can do. I wrapped my whole car and i love it. No etch marks, no stonechips, no scratches.
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titan7 Private First Class 39 Rep 149 Posts Drives: X3 M40 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Peoria, AZ iTrader: (1)	I look over the car after every drive and use quick detail spray, but realistically I can’t stop every 5 minutes. It only takes a few minutes for etching to happen. This is a spot that is 1/16” circle or smaller. Most of the time I can get it off with no cloud left, appears this bird was different. I am thinking M205 or #9 swirl remover on my fingertip should remove it. I think a DA machine would be overkill. Most of the car, 90% is covered with PPF, this spot is on the rear deck. __________________ Current Rides : 2024 X3 M40, 2021 Corolla Hybrid Past: 2008 328i, 2008 535i, 2012 135 vert, 2015 m235 vert, 2017 Porsche 911, 2018 M4 ZCP, 2021 X3 M40
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arucano Captain 251 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 2014 M6 Grand Coupe CP Join Date: May 2017 Location: Kingwood TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW M6 GC [10.00]	Make sure you have a good coat of wax or other protection. I have had droppings that I wipe off at the end of the day (in hot Houston sun) and do not have problems with etching. Although Carnuba is not very heat resistant it works great. I use Meguire's synthetic sealant (either the M21 pro or Ultimate car wax and use quick detailer spray and a soft microfiber towel to wipe it off after wetting with the quick detailer spray and giving it a minute or so to soften the stuff Good luck. __________________ F06 M6 Grand Coupe CP Sapphire Black Metallic The drive is the destination
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10-14-2019, 09:46 AM	#12
andrewBM4 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Hey, I'm a luxury car detailer from Toronto and I just picked up a 2016 m4. I'm also new to the forums as this is my first post! I would agree with some people advising get a wax for protection but that won't last you much once you get a nice rain fall. The best two ways that you will not get etching in the clear would be either to ppf the car or do a ceramic coating from a high quality and reputable brand. And some ppl go the extra mile (deep pocket lol) and they will ppf the whole car and ceramic coat right on top.
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10-14-2019, 10:37 PM	#13
danchee Lieutenant 136 Rep 453 Posts Drives: 21 X7 40i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rainy City iTrader: (0)	If it's that bad, you should just garage the car and never drive it Or maybe get some track wrap https://www.trakktape.com/
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10-15-2019, 07:25 AM	#15
allinon72 Brigadier General 4921 Rep 3,804 Posts Drives: 20' M2C, 23' X1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (2)	PPF/ceramic coating, or both. In the off chance that the PPF gets etched, it can be replaced. Pay special attention to the carbon roof if you have one, the clearcoat is extremely soft and susceptible to damage.
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hellokitty Brigadier General 2896 Rep 3,726 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (2)	Get a polisher and ceramic coat it yourself. Do a maintenance layer of Gtechniq Liquid Crystal every 2-3 months and you’ll be happy with the results. Also get Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash and use 3 oz with 1 gallon of distilled water for the ultimate quick detailer solution. A tiny bottle lasted me over a year.
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Narcosis The dude abides 50 Rep 265 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (2)	Would ceramic coating help ease your mind re: the bird shit? I've received quotes from $1500-2k to do my M4, just haven't scraped together the $$ for it yet. Last edited by Narcosis; 10-17-2019 at 11:13 AM..
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allinon72 Brigadier General 4921 Rep 3,804 Posts Drives: 20' M2C, 23' X1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (2)	There's no way I would pay that for ceramic coating. There are too many variables that could ruin the coating. Say you take your car to the dealer and they accidentally wash it - poof that 2k goes up in smoke. Plus you'll get 1.5, maybe 2 years out of a coating and it needs done again. I just coated my car for about $300 in materials and roughly 8 hours of my labor. Now at that price point, it makes sense. Same with my Raptor at about $400 and 12 hours (needed more paint correction).
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destriero Enlisted Member 47 Rep 44 Posts Drives: G80 M3 ordered! 88 911, C7 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Estero, FL iTrader: (0)	You will be amazed at the level of protection with a ceramic coating. I wasn’t a believer until I saw thing like bird shit come right off and leave no trace.
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