Lots of M3 CS talk, but why isn't there much love for the M4 CS?

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Case in point, another forum member with an M4cs and he’s not in North America .

As opposed to the M3cs, I don’t believe there’s an actual limit on total M4cs production volume.

When I got mine back in October, I was told there’s no new factory orders, and I tried to build one in my local dealers and it wasn’t on the system.

Having said that, I assume most of them were ore built and specced by BMW, as my brand new car in October 2018 has a factory build datebook of November 2017 lol.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

When I got mine back in October, I was told there’s no new factory orders, and I tried to build one in my local dealers and it wasn’t on the system.

Having said that, I assume most of them were ore built and specced by BMW, as my brand new car in October 2018 has a factory build datebook of November 2017 lol.

Mine is a July 2018 build. Ordered it exactly as I wanted, albeit there weren't many options. My four choices: LRG, alcantara steering wheel, iron brakes and PSC2 tires. EOP for the CS apparently is Feb-2019.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by Davem2c

Quite frankly the m3cs was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the m4cs. I drove both and while the m4cs was a pube hair better, 99.9 percent of the time it would be exactly the same. Just because I have the money doesn't mean I can't opt for the better deal.

Also M3 CS deals are popping up all over now...minimum of $10k off MSRP starting point it appears is typical. Momentum BMW in TX has four of them with asking prices at MSRP - $10,004 for example.

[CanAutM3]

There’s also that big price premium BMW NA is charging for the M4cs over the M3cs. At $5000 USD (+4.9%), it is quite significant.

As a comparison, BMW Canada is only charging $2250 USD (+2.6%, $3000CAD) more for the M4cs over the M3cs. It's quite a difference which makes for a strong case for the M3cs.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by Aus_M

I think the M4CS went a bit too far towards impractical with the doors etc. the M3CS gets a full interior door with storage as well as the Harmon kardon plus looks better and is more practical.

I do love those OLED lights though.....

Yep. And don't forget that hideous rear deck wing that looks like it is straight out of the original fast and furious movie. I was thinking about an M4CS until I saw that rear wing and those interior door panels. Those two things turned me off.

[Irma the imola red M4]

Originally Posted by R-M4

Lol!!
It's a PERSONAL preference guys!
I think the M3 is awesome. However, I find the M4 even more awesome! Does that make sense? 😊

Makes perfect sence to me ☺️👍🏾.

[NYBulldog]

I've yet to see 1 M4CS in a dealership, they are all M3CSs. I much prefer the M3 proportions BUTTT if I bought a CS model it would probably be the M4 just for the OLEDs.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Yep. And don't forget that hideous rear deck wing that looks like it is straight out of the original fast and furious movie. I was thinking about an M4CS until I saw that rear wing and those interior door panels. Those two things turned me off.

What “hideous rear deck wing” are you talking about ????

The M4cs comes with the same style Gurney flap as the M3cs (look at the picture in my signature). I have to assume you got confused by a dealer that added the M-Performance wing to an M4cs.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Aus_M

I think the M4CS went a bit too far towards impractical with the doors etc. the M3CS gets a full interior door with storage as well as the Harmon kardon plus looks better and is more practical.

I do love those OLED lights though.....

I now think the M4cs’ more Spartan interior is part of the appeal. I was a bit turned off by it in the beginning when the M4cs was launched back in 2017, but it has now really grown on me after living with it. The reduced sound deadening from the door cards and the reduced weight contribute to the enhanced driving experience.

[m3cssvr]

M3CS imho only true track focused car with light, daily, 4 door practicality. M4CS is great but I reserve 2 doors for my R8 or maybe new facelifted huracan. I’m glad bmw came out with a limited production M3. Hopefully it continues.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I now think the M4cs’ interior is part of the appeal. I was turned off by it in the beginning, but it has now really grown on me. The reduced sound deadening from the door cards and the reduced weight contribute to the enhanced driving experience.

Fully agree.

They kept the M3 a bit too luxury in my opinion. Too much leather, basically an identical car inside to a comp, but without an armrest and dual zone climate.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

What “hideous rear deck wing” are you talking about ????

The M4cs comes with the same style Gurney flap as the M3cs (look at the picture in my signature). I have to assume you got confused by a dealer that added the M-Performance wing to an M4cs.

Hey. Thanks for pointing this out. My dealer has a beautiful San Marino Blue M4 cs and I was drawn to it. It has this fast and furious type rear wing and I hate it. I'm glad to see that it is an option....I didn't bother to look at the window sticker to see if the wing was an option. I'm not in love with the interior door covers, but I could overlook them.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Hey. Thanks for pointing this out. My dealer has a beautiful San Marino Blue M4 cs and I was drawn to it. It has this fast and furious type rear wing and I hate it. I'm glad to see that it is an option....I didn't bother to look at the window sticker to see if the wing was an option. I'm not in love with the interior door covers, but I could overlook them.

It's not even an option, it's an M-Performance aftermarket add on. I find it inconceivable that a dealer would remove the beatiful stock CF gurney flap (worth $1,200), install that tacky M-Performance wing and actually charge extra for it

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It's not even an option, it's an M-Performance aftermarket add on. I find it inconceivable that a dealer would remove the beatiful stock CF gurney flap, install that tacky M-Performance wing and actually charge extra for it

This dealer is usually conservative about their in-stock inventory. I say usually because they did once order a signal green over black m4 comp for stock. Not a problem since it sold in a couple of weeks. But, with this M4 cs, I suspect one of two things happened, either they miscalculated the appeal of that M performance wing and added it hoping to make the car sell faster or someone ordered this M4 cs with the wing and backed out after it arrived. I think it was the second thing because this car was ordered back when BMWNA was not doing leasing for the CS cars. I can easily see a customer ordering the car expecting to be able to lease it and backing out of the deal when no leases were available. This M4 cs has been on the ground for quite some time.

[4DRS55]

Originally Posted by Maitre_Absolut

M3CS is only missing manual door latch

M3CS has the black/white seats vs M4CS has all black. This part is the most noticeable and what sets off the M3CS interior.

The M3CS is only missing a manual transmission

I would have traded my M3 comp for a M3 CS if they offered it in MT. I do not discredit DCT as it’s an awesome transmission but for me I need the “man pedal”

I think people love the aggressive look of the hips on the m3 in general. The practicality of four doors is subjective to each. Personally they made the M3 look much more aggressive than the 3 series. Being the CS models I believe they should have the same interior and exterior parts.

[TimsM4]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It's not even an option, it's an M-Performance aftermarket add on. I find it inconceivable that a dealer would remove the beatiful stock CF gurney flap (worth $1,200), install that tacky M-Performance wing and actually charge extra for it

Local dealer had an M4CS with the big wing. Think it was a $4000 + option..

[dezzracer]

I have an off topic question regarding my Alpine White MS CS. Why is there an "individual" plaque on the driver side wheel well under the hood. I thought individual tags were reserved for individual colors or rare options or something like that. Im new to F80 so sorry if dumb question.

[Circuit Hunter]

I think the M3cs is more appealing to me because arguably it’s the best performing sedan on the planet at any price. The M4cs is heck of a car but at the price point there are just too many options. I’d rather have a GT4, Carrera T, modified Grand Sport or now a GT500.

[elisiX]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

I have an off topic question regarding my Alpine White MS CS. Why is there an "individual" plaque on the driver side wheel well under the hood. I thought individual tags were reserved for individual colors or rare options or something like that. Im new to F80 so sorry if dumb question.

I believe this will be in reference to the two tone, Black/Silverstone interior, which is indeed made by BMW Individual.

[dezzracer]

Hmm. Well that's cool I guess. So I'm assuming the two-tone seats are unique to the M3 CS. I've heard some guys complain they don't like them but I sure do. Especially with alpine white exterior.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

Hmm. Well that's cool I guess. So I'm assuming the two-tone seats are unique to the M3 CS. I've heard some guys complain they don't like them but I sure do. Especially with alpine white exterior.

The M3cs basically borrowed the interior from the 30-Jahre edition M3. The CS seats are however unique because they added the ///M tri-colours on the headrests instead of the 30-Jahre logo and have the black M3 insignia instead of the silver ones.

[jeff4598]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

E92 was the highlight of the last generation.
F80 is the highlight of this generation.

Not saying the F82 looks bad, but BMW designers nailed it with the F80.

I see it the other way around by FAR. Taste I guess.