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I think the most ironic thing about this thread is people arguing over what the actual brand is saying their own cars are classified as.
(Real)M car owner: Hey BMW, the M340 I is a fake M car! BMW: Uh no, it's an M car now because we make the car and we say it is. Why do you say it isn't? (Real)M car owner: Because F$#% You! (FakeM)340i owner: I just got the car because I liked it, not because it has an M. |
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An M340 or whatever is most certainly not an M3 nor is the current M3 what an M3 used to be. The only thing special about an M3 or M5 was that it was once the top trim level you could buy for the road. It no longer is. That’s an M3 Competition Plus CSL or whatever it is now.
As far as I know Porsche invented this game. “Carrera” was once bestowed only upon a car of mythical status, performance and rarity. Now it is the base model. Pandering to the equity built by legend into the name and initiating a never ending need to create the next top model as the legend is diluted. I’m not against modifying cars to improve performance. I do it. But no amount of modification makes the second level trim more than the top even if it’s faster. Any car can be made to go fast but the top factory trim is the top factory trim. Period. Only thing you could do is start with the top trim and modify it. But why? You want the status of the top trim which everyone covets but won’t admit.....and you like tinkering.....and you have the money to do it. FYI I am a BMW fan and previous owner of several M3s and M5s just took a break but thinking I’ll be back with the next M3...think I’ll like the big schnoz |
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To break it down to a science, a vehicle is a sum of parts attached to metal frame. So logically, If said parts are practically all the same as one on another similar frame structure, wouldn't they both more or less perform pretty much identically. There is no black magic involved, it's just a machine. What am I missing exactly that makes an official M car that much different? M340i also has all the same aluminum parts, such as the hood and truck and is designed on a CLAR platform, resulting in the weight-saving advantages as any current F-generation M car. So the little weight difference is also a wash. Maybe I'm not drinking enough M Kool Aid as some of guys here but frankly, the only reason I wanted a M2 over the M240i was because of its stock electronic LSD or else I could of take it or leave it. It's really not that serious, as I never really met a BMW I couldn't grow to like and appreciate, regardless of its moniker. Anyone with half a brain and experience with standard BMWs of the past knows the only thing that was handicapping it's potential performance was the lack of a mechanical LSD and BMW knew that also, since they reserved that exclusively for the officially christen M cars. Now that every M or M Performance gets the same hardware, the only thing that would possible dissuade me from not purchasing a M Performance-like model is a lack of a manual option. Which I'm now sure will be the M car's new claim to fame. |
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Ironically it already kinda was, and now it's less so. |
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BMW: Hey, let's market the top base cars as ///M cars just to follow suit with Audi and MB, maybe we can sell more cars. M340i car owner: Hey, I told you my car was a REAL M car, even BMW say so! M3 car owner: But, but, but...
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In reality, as an M owner, I don't give a faaaawwwwk what BMW or anyone else labels the X3m340imperformance etc or anything else like it. I prefer the driving experience an M car delivers. Now, I haven't driven the M340i so can't comment on how it drives but I have drove the X3M40i and it's quite impressive. A colleague of mine just purchased a 2020 and it's quite the machine. But, it's not comparable in many ways to the X3MComp I drove. Doesn't make it shit, it's just not the same. So whatever that means to anyone, I don't care. I also don't care about anyone's history with the BMW brand, how many driving schools you been to or how small your penis is that your compensating for. I drove the cars I drive for me and that's really all anyone needs to worry about. Stop justifying why you bought an M340i and why you THINK it's so great. You like it and that's why you bought it. Enjoy it. It's quite simple
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Point out just one M340i owner here that said their vehicle is now an M car due to this news. Just one and only one.. I'll wait. All I see are pages upon pages of real M car owners, with fragile egos, that's getting bent out of shape due to a marketing decision that has no bearing on their own vehicle. It's very telling that some of guys insecurities can eat you up alive. Unless you live your life a quarter mile at a time, you're not even going to use 50% of the potential any of these vehicles can product, so the dick-measuring contest is moot. |
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I personally could not care less about the marketing. I am in for the product. As long as BMW provides a product that best suits my needs, I'll be a buyer, regardless of how they call it and regardless of how they call the rest of the lineup.
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Merciful heavens...more than 500 posts in two days. My first BMW many years ago was an E46 M3 Coupe. But for a true exotic, go find a Fiesta ST. So exotic that Ford won’t even sell you a new one in the US. Snicker, snicker.
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If you wasn't from Canada, I would assume you was US president or something, incognito, behind the keyboard. No standard BMW owners said one braggadocious thing about their vehicle. If they did, I'm sure you would be overpowered with joy to point them out and nail them to a cross. Anyways, I'm going to let you guys get back to your passive-aggressive bashing. I'm about to go hang out with a hot girl, who all she see is that blue BMW roundel and couldn't care less if there is A to Z emblem next to it, like most people outside of this forum. It's been enlightening ✌🏻 |
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