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I cannot speak of your flash tune, but a new software update WILL erase your current coding.
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I agree they should be free and I'll push to get mine updated for free. But if BMW doesn't deem this a necessary software update, even though everyone here will, they won't reimburse dealers and offer it for free. And by necessary software update I mean BMW finds that when headlamps are switched on and off 5 times the side indicators no longer function. That' something they would have to fix and for free.
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What items COULD you bring it in for that might warrant a dealership to perform the latest update under warranty? Curious about people's answers to this.
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Anyway, just ask your SA and I'm sure they will work with you to get it done under warranty/for free. Obviously, it is definitely dealership dependent though how much they will work with you on stuff like this. Last edited by minn19; 05-13-2016 at 07:23 PM.. |
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iDrive shutting off randomly on me (happened a total of 5ish times in 1.5 years of ownership, so I haven't brought it in yet)
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I'll be picking up my 57.2 - 58.3 upgraded car today. Will let you know. It will be interesting to compare this change to the ZCP I test drove (Note I have an F80, and the ZCP was a F82 if that makes a difference). Let's see if the suspension is just software or if there is that big a difference in the hardware.
I have a very bumpy corner near me and the non-ZCP will step out on the corner at anything over 30mph, the ZCP did not. Should be able to test this afternoon (if it doesn't rain.)
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I have a bumpy corner near me that I usually use to test. The Non-ZCP would step out at 30 and above in any mode, the ZCP didn't in my test drive (up to 45, dealer was sitting in the car with me). The newly updated Non-ZCP doesn't step out at under 45 in sport or Sport+, but it did before the upgrade. Suspension- You can only do so much with software, but it is noticeable. Comfort - More REBOUND!!! Finally. The car no longer floats after slow transitions. It is no softer, but this helps it feel more "comfortable" to me. Sport - Appears they backed down the compression for higher speed transitions. Otherwise it feels the same. Sport+ - Appears they backed down the compression for higher speed transitions. Otherwise it feels the same. Engine - Nothing new to report Exhaust - Nothing new to report DCT - Still clunky at low speeds. Noted that it no longer makes a loud "Clunk" when going from reverse to drive. DTC - Here is where the magic happened. (Tested in abandoned parking lot near me.) DTC On - This acts much like US MDM used to but more permissive. Hairpin from a stop it will now allow some rotation, but not sliding. 1st -2nd in D3 full throttle - Allows the tires to spin and lets you keep going. Very minimal interference at all. Before if I tried either of these would cut the power so severely that it felt like I tapped the brakes. DTC MDM - This acts much like EU MDM used to but more permissive. Hairpin from a stop it will now allow rotation with NO interference. I could loop the car. NP. When I tried to pull a donut it came in and resisted me. 1st -2nd in D3 full throttle - Allows the tires to spin and lets you keep going. NO interference at all. Before if I tried either of these would cut the power so severely that it felt like I tapped the brakes. DTC Off - No Change, but the rear feels much more planted (New Diff programing?). With the immense changes to the other settings I couldn't feel this. Net of this change. Where has this car been? I was in love before, now I've fallen in love all over again. I think what they did with the DTC is to stop killing the power and do it all with the brakes. The difference is startling. Can't wait for my next track day. (Note: All of the above was after I drove around to let the tires warm up.)
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And here I thought I was being objective.
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Excellent, thanks! I just left my car at the dealer to perform the update... How can I know they did the correct update? or they can only perform the latest? |
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1) Did you specifically have to ask Otto's to do the software update? Who was your SA? 2) Do you notice any noticeable change? 3) Did it wipe out the coding? Thanks. Ricky
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I still feel the need to go coilovers, but I will admit it feels a little better. Like you said , only so much you can do with software.
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A lot of folks on the forum gave me a hard time when I said I never buy the first year model and free reading your thread I am glad I waited for the 2016 M3. The LCI was a bonus
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And I did. I was just adding to the info having driven all 3. Old code and new code non-ZCP and a ZCP.
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