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      03-09-2016, 01:12 PM   #1
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Wondering if anyone considered getting a 991.2?
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Yes! I will bet a carrera s with software can push GT3 level of HP.
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Not for me once they turbo'd it. It's funny, but I'm ok with turbos on some cars, like the M3/4 for instance, but not on others, like the 911. Plus the 991 is too big in my opinion. I am interested in a 997 though.
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      03-09-2016, 02:42 PM   #4
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Wondering if anyone considered getting a 991.2?
Definitely. It's a 911 and I love them....

... until I built a base Carrera (without going overboard with options) and ended up with a $99k car. For a base model? No thanks.
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Definitely. It's a 911 and I love them....

... until I built a base Carrera (without going overboard with options) and ended up with a $99k car. For a base model? No thanks.
I did the same thing. That car is darned expensive. A Cayman is closer in price to a M3/M4. I seriously considered getting a Cayman S over my M3 but it ended up being just a bit too impractical.
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Not for me once they turbo'd it. It's funny, but I'm ok with turbos on some cars, like the M3/4 for instance, but not on others, like the 911. Plus the 991 is too big in my opinion. I am interested in a 997 though.
I somewhat agree with this, while all 991 variants literally look like sex on wheels on the road (so much road presence) the 997 is just the perfect size for me. After driving a 997s in the canyons I can only say the hype is very real (the steering feel was absolutely phenomenal), while the base 991 didn't wow me as much. I'm sure the 991s would change my mind though lol, but the 991 did feel a bit bigger than the 997. With turbo lag I am not sure how I would feel...though I definitely didn't mind it in the 997tts I drove, in that car I can only say the wait is worth it when the boost hits like a truck
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I did the same thing. That car is darned expensive. A Cayman is closer in price to a M3/M4. I seriously considered getting a Cayman S over my M3 but it ended up being just a bit too impractical.
718S came out to $78k for me. Still on the steep side considering my friend bought his GT4 for less than $90k.
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I did the same thing. That car is darned expensive. A Cayman is closer in price to a M3/M4. I seriously considered getting a Cayman S over my M3 but it ended up being just a bit too impractical.
718S came out to $78k for me. Still on the steep side considering my friend bought his GT4 for less than $90k.
Wow. 94k for a GT4? That's great.
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Wow. 94k for a GT4? That's great.
Yea, his is pretty low on options, but it's perfect. Yellow paint, yellow seat belts, heated seats and fire extinguisher. Done.

Even at that price, it's out of my budget (wouldn't be if I sold my M3's, but I don't want to). But it's hard for me to justify a "normal" Boxster or Cayman when they are so close to that GT4.

I wouldn't mind a stripper Boxster Spyder either, but too much money for me.
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Seriously considering a base 911.2. After I build it on the configurator, it comes out a hair over the 100k mark. Somewhat difficult to justify in my opinion.
M4 with the competition package is the most likely alternative. Waiting for more youtube reviews. Not a big fan of Steve Sutcliffe.
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Yea, his is pretty low on options, but it's perfect. Yellow paint, yellow seat belts, heated seats and fire extinguisher. Done.

Even at that price, it's out of my budget (wouldn't be if I sold my M3's, but I don't want to). But it's hard for me to justify a "normal" Boxster or Cayman when they are so close to that GT4.

I wouldn't mind a stripper Boxster Spyder either, but too much money for me.
When talking GT prices, it is an easier pill to swallow when you know how well they hold there value. In some cases they don't lose value at all. Then you compare them to the depreciation of their standard models, they tank like a rock in the first couple years. 991.2 will be a great value as a CPO in a couple years, in the $70k range.
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I did the same thing. That car is darned expensive. A Cayman is closer in price to a M3/M4. I seriously considered getting a Cayman S over my M3 but it ended up being just a bit too impractical.
718S came out to $78k for me. Still on the steep side considering my friend bought his GT4 for less than $90k.
I was going to get the Cayman GTS, could have had for low 80's nicely equipped. M4 had more bang for buck. I will have to try a Porsche sometime, my M is my first sports car...baby steps...
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Yes! I will bet a carrera s with software can push GT3 level of HP.
i'm sure this will void warranty.

if one doesn't care about warranty, why not get the base 991.2 and tune/increase boost?
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When talking GT prices, it is an easier pill to swallow when you know how well they hold there value. In some cases they don't lose value at all. Then you compare them to the depreciation of their standard models, they tank like a rock in the first couple years. 991.2 will be a great value as a CPO in a couple years, in the $70k range.
Absolutely. We all know Boxsters depreciate a pretty decent amount. I personally wouldn't mind a 997 Turbo as well, but the clean ones seem to be holding their value.

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I was going to get the Cayman GTS, could have had for low 80's nicely equipped. M4 had more bang for buck. I will have to try a Porsche sometime, my M is my first sports car...baby steps...
Agreed. The only way I see myself into a Porsche I really want would be used. Hopefully the Spyders depreciate more than the GT's, but this is a long term goal anyway.
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I've configured a low-optioned 991.2 base and I agree it's a ton of money for a base.

I think I'd rather build a stripper GT4 for less money; it's still a little out of my price range, though.

I think a 718 Cayman S might be something to consider, too. The M3 hits such a sweet spot, though!
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I'm starting to consider Porsche for my next vehicle for the simple reason that my kids are going to be at the age where they can fit in the back, climb back there themselves, and it'd be alot of fun.

I'm concerned - without having driven one - that the 991.2 will have lost the classic Porsche recipe. I've owned the most anemic boxster and I've driven a few other Porsches - not many - and to me their fun comes from some combination of the following factors:

1. Low weight & unique weight distribution (compared to traditional cars)
2. Potent engine sound coming from behind your head
3. Unique steering feel from no mass over the front axle
4. Rev happy flat six engines that WANT to be wrung out - that encourage keeping the pedal buried
5. A simply glorious seating position and visibility profile
6. A damn short wheelbase (consider even the 991 is 14" shorter in wheelbase than the f80 - that's enormous). A 993, the most fun 911 I've driven, had a 90" wheelbase - 20" less than the f80.

Probably a few others in there.

My experience is that each successive Porsche 911 generation has lost some of those things. They are more technically proficient, but less fun to drive as a result.

At this stage, I look at the 991.2 and it's price and combination and say "no thanks"....but only time will tell what my true commitment is
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The question is would a CPO Porsche 991 be as likely to be abused as a CPO M4? I'm considering a 2015 991, but the rear seats are probably inadequate for my 3-month-old until he gets out of a rear-facing car seat.
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I've owned the most anemic boxster and I've driven a few other Porsches - not many - and to me their fun comes from some combination of the following factors:

1. Low weight & unique weight distribution (compared to traditional cars)
2. Potent engine sound coming from behind your head
3. Unique steering feel from no mass over the front axle
4. Rev happy flat six engines that WANT to be wrung out - that encourage keeping the pedal buried
5. A simply glorious seating position and visibility profile
6. A damn short wheelbase (consider even the 991 is 14" shorter in wheelbase than the f80 - that's enormous). A 993, the most fun 911 I've driven, had a 90" wheelbase - 20" less than the f80.
Wow, exactly why I enjoyed the 997s 6mt I drove so much. You might have just won at internet
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Not for me once they turbo'd it. It's funny, but I'm ok with turbos on some cars, like the M3/4 for instance, but not on others, like the 911. Plus the 991 is too big in my opinion. I am interested in a 997 though.
I somewhat agree with this, while all 991 variants literally look like sex on wheels on the road (so much road presence) the 997 is just the perfect size for me. After driving a 997s in the canyons I can only say the hype is very real (the steering feel was absolutely phenomenal), while the base 991 didn't wow me as much. I'm sure the 991s would change my mind though lol, but the 991 did feel a bit bigger than the 997. With turbo lag I am not sure how I would feel...though I definitely didn't mind it in the 997tts I drove, in that car I can only say the wait is worth it when the boost hits like a truck
Couldn't agree with this more. I owned a 997 and loved it - it's size was perfect. The 991 feels SO much bigger than it. I find it amazing that people criticize the F80 for getting so much bigger - it feels to me like it grew proportionately less vs the 911 in this generation.
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The 991 generation for me is the ideal GT car. What it can do performance-wise and handling are immense. The 'GT' models are hard to describe in words. I understand why people are paying 2x Msrp after being in a friends not too long ago.
I am excited to check out the new turbo 911 models. Porsche knows, and is one of the best when it comes to turbo'd cars. Reviews so far have been very positive and they do not dissapoint.

I don't think the 991 feels very big despite slightly growing. It's so nimble and truly drives like a very small, light car. I also agree with the above that it's purely sexy and has immense road presence.

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