M4 GTS on Motor Trend's Ignition (Laguna Seca Lap Time Inside)

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by M.a.r.k.u.s

I used to like Motortrend a lot but these past few years, their results and car recommendations seem to have a direct correlation with the ad space in their magazines.

it really got bad with Cammisa. Jonny is no fan of BMW as I have heard he himself say it in an interview, but he at least was informative and had his reasons.

Cammisa is a clown and his reviews are juvenile.

the reviews are basically bash fests and completely lopsided. Some of the critiques are legitimate but MT makes the cars they don't like a complete joke.


Bashing Infiniti:

Bashing Acura:

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

it really got bad with Cammisa. Jonny is no fan of BMW as I have heard he himself say it in an interview, but he at least was informative and had his reasons.

Cammisa is a clown and his reviews are juvenile.

the reviews are basically bash fests and completely lopsided. Some of the critiques are legitimate but MT makes the cars they don't like a complete joke.


Bashing Infiniti:

Bashing Acura:

Can you find an example of them bashing an American car?

[yousefnjr]

MT was responsible for 9/11

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Can you find an example of them bashing an American car?

Watch the head to head of the ATS-V vs the C63S. The ATS-V outperforms the C63S but they spend the whole time bashing it in favor of the C63S.

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Can you find an example of them bashing an American car?

Nope. I can't find one.

This one made me give up completely-

The Chevy SS is the NEW BENCHMARK IN SPORTS SEDANS.

Yes, SS is a good car, but the benchmark? WOW. Australians are making the best cars in the world?

I was laughing at my wife reading tabloids yesterday at Vons, but yet I am watching this?

[CanAutM3]

Nice conclusion in this preview

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Nice conclusion in this preview

wtf, they f*cked up that GTS splitter just to make a joke???

no words.... just so moronic...

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

wtf, they f*cked up that GTS splitter just to make a joke???

no words.... just so moronic...

I have said this about Motor Trend for awhile. They just like to bash cars that don't fit their criteria of how cars should be.

It's pretty sad. It is the same with Matt Farah. You can see his biased opinions full frontal.

[GreenLantern]

The lack of professionalism is astonishing.

Give me Carlos Lago back.

Better yet, fire them all and get Chris Harris to cross the pond.

[raysspl]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I just had dinner over the weekend with a good buddy of mine who is a financial analyst and broker. He was telling me how worried he is about the automotive market, how he is seeing the financial bubble move from real-estate to vehicles and the increasing level of debt of American car makers (especially GM). There are strong incentives...

The important thing to know are how much of it leveraged & how much of the debt is subprime vs prime

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by raysspl

The important thing to know are how much of it leveraged & how much of the debt is subprime vs prime

I think he is making a reference to the fact that automakers are leveraged as well to the hilt to make sure sales are humming, raises, pensions, etc.

house of cards... we never learn. I'm moving to Canada, before they build a wall to keep us out.

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

I guess the M4 GTS will not likely have a chance at winning their "best driver's car 2016".

Hardly crack into top 5

[M2 CSL]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

No - the full course is 20.8 km - all of the times I quoted above came from the 20.6 km configuration - so we're talking the exact same track here.

Again - I absolutely cannot believe the Camaro SS 1LE is going to match the M4 GTS on any track except when Motor Trend is driving (Camisa in particular). No way in hell (or on the green hell for that matter ) is the 1LE going to beat the M4 GTS, let alone all the results in red above or tie the ones in green... Camisa is the new American Sutcliffe.

Times are changing. Camaros are fast now. American cars are fast now.

I've come to terms with it. Many of you will too someday, but then again, maybe not.

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by Ummm2

Times are changing. Camaros are fast now. American cars are fast now.

I've come to terms with it. Many of you will too someday, but then again, maybe not.

American cars might be fast, but they are still assembled like shit.

[M2 CSL]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

American cars might be fast, but they are still assembled like shit.

I can't argue with that!

[mu2002cs]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

American cars might be fast, but they are still assembled like shit.

Plus, they haven't figured out brakes yet. Have been on track with many new Mustangs and Camaros that are in the pits after 3-4 hot laps due to severe brake fade.

[scoobysaurus]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

American cars might be fast, but they are still assembled like shit.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro. It's downright hilarious to see a 6 figure track spec BMW get spanked by a $40k Camaro lol.

[avex8]

M4 gts overrated vehicle. I rather spend that money on a Porsche gt3. Or a Gtr with some upgrades, it will smoke gts all day and it still cheaper

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by avex8

M4 gts overrated vehicle. I rather spend that money on a Porsche gt3. Or a Gtr with some upgrades, it will smoke gts all day and it still cheaper

911 GT3 overrated vehicle. I rather spend that money on a Chevy z06. Or a Camaro with some upgrades, it will smoke gt3 all day and it still cheaper

Underline is for you to put whatever car you want in that sentence that is cheaper/faster and you'd rather than xxx car.

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by avex8

M4 gts overrated vehicle. I rather spend that money on a Porsche gt3. Or a Gtr with some upgrades, it will smoke gts all day and it still cheaper

So what's stopping you? Do you need permission from the wife or girlfriend?

[avex8]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

GT3 overrated vehicle. I rather spend that money on a Chevy z06. Or a Camaro with some upgrades, it will smoke a gt3 all day and it still cheaper.

Underline is for you to put whatever car you want in that sentence that is cheaper/faster and you'd rather than xxx car.

But you are driving a Porsche. It looks and handle and performance better for same price range. Sorry Bmw fan boy but Bmw is not that special anymore. Anyone can buy their M modes and I see more 3 and 4 series on the road than Camry and civic combine. Also the interior is not as nice compare to Amg and Porsche.

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by avex8

But you are driving a Porsche.

sorry... you lost me at fanboy.