ZCP DME flash Semi-Successful on Non-ZCP F8X

[terahertz]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Hi, can I ask how you got the detailed "Fault description" if you haven't done the same as thisisdave ? The info displayed is usually from the fault memory list for a specific fault. I read above that you haven't built your PSU so I assume you got this either from the Internet, or you were you able to browse Faults in Rheingold offline???

I looked up his fault code in Rheingold. I also built my PSU and flashed my car to 58.3 this morning, but I'm not sure there's much else I can do now if it's FSC code enabled.

I think all our DMEs have FSC "enabling" codes which enable features and ties it to your VIN. I read in Rheingold that if you get a new DME, you have to get a "repair" code, since the DME has nothing in it. Ours is probably already loaded with civic M3 FSC, but gives the error when flashed with ZCP fw because ZCP DME is probably considered a different "feature".

Off topic: going from 57.2 to 58.3 was a noticeable difference. The ASD is more rearward and less in your face. The DCT is less lurchy and is smoother taking off. I always thought sport+ was too sensitive and i think it got a little more progressive near the cruising point, instead of
being so on/off. Also, there's more random burble/pops here and there that weren't there in normal driving before, but nothing like ZCP.

[hockey9999]

Originally Posted by terahertz

I looked up his fault code in Rheingold. I also built my PSU and flashed my car to 58.3 this morning, but I'm not sure there's much else I can do now if it's FSC code enabled.

I think all our DMEs have FSC "enabling" codes which enable features and ties it to your VIN. I read in Rheingold that if you get a new DME, you have to get a "repair" code, since the DME has nothing in it. Ours is probably already loaded with civic M3 FSC, but gives the error when flashed with ZCP fw because ZCP DME is probably considered a different "feature".

Off topic: going from 57.2 to 58.3 was a noticeable difference. The ASD is more rearward and less in your face. The DCT is less lurchy and is smoother taking off. I always thought sport+ was too sensitive and i think it got a little more progressive near the cruising point, instead of
being so on/off. Also, there's more random burble/pops here and there that weren't there in normal driving before, but nothing like ZCP.

Slightly off topic.. But a separate thread on the PSU you built and the process/tools to flash to 58.3 would be awesome and appreciated!

[packetpilot]

Just got ISTA/P seemingly working and will see if I get any traction with a swfl combined with enable programming mode checked (most likely via e-sys since I'm more familiar with it), then will investigate programming options via ISTA/P.

Fingers crossed.

@terahertz (is that you, Sam?), glad your upgrade went smoothly. Was about 30min, yes? The swf/cdDeploy is less than two mins so you're not tied to busting out the PSU to switch back and forth. I'm starting to wonder whether I should worry about wearing out those blocks though since they might be designed to have maybe a dozen flashes in a lifespan...

[packetpilot]

Diffing hexdumps of the swfl binaries to re-roll binaries of flash seg1-/seg2-replaced binaries to flash (since the segments are individually signed per the header xml).

...while I lick my wounds after being unsuccessful with ICOM emulation on ISTA/P over ENET; perhaps I'll either need an ICOM cable, or will need further tuning of EDIABAS.ini.

[terahertz]

I'm not Sam, but yes it was about 30 minutes. . I'm pretty sure flash memory these days lasts much longer than a dozen writes. I think on the older BMW's you could flash many times, but there was only 64 records for the software ID to be written. You could get around that by not writing the ID.

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

We may need to pull in shawnsheridan

I can enable retrofits in ISTA/P with FSC codes but there is no "retrofit ZCP DME" choice.

Sounds like one of my weekend projects is to learn about FSC

0029 might be a fit: "Conversion, execute power output raise"

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

0029 might be a fit: "Conversion, execute power output raise"

...or 004C: "Conversion, deactivate power reduction"

...and this makes me really wish I had ISTA/P working. Set local ethernet to 169.254.0.1 and have the USB interface (disabled though) set per networksetup.exe and it's been at 169.254.0.8... set EDIABAS.ini to have remote host at car's IP wit port 6801 left as-is... really wish I could get stable ICOM emulation over ENET but perhaps my macbook+vm-over-USB-ethernet dongle's getting in the way. Should provision myself a native Windows laptop temporarily, and also get an ICOM cable I guess.

To keep up momentum, I'm going to try re-rolled swfl binaries, probably now, and then get some sleep.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

...It's in the db.

Thanks to @terahertz refreshing my old age brain (I used it one year ago for my E71470 code), here's how: Rheingold->Vehicle Management ->Troubleshooting-> Input Fault code.

Misc ramblings, I know little about FSC codes, and if you ask Shawn, he'd say only BMW AG issues FSC codes tied to VIN although there are some generators and it's possible to get some FSC codes for maps, ... You can extract an FSC code using Esys, import it to activate feature, ... So let's say we ask few ZCP owners to extract their FSC code, then you need a cryptographer/cryptoanalist like TM to take a crack at it...

ferrarif1 mentioned that you can get ISTA/D working with an ICOM emulator, unsure if ISTA/P works with an ICOM emulator. In any case, all research and futile attempts on my parts and others couldn't get neither suites to work with an emulator, an ICOM unit is needed unless he chimes in with the details.

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Thanks to @terahertz refreshing my old age brain (I used it one year ago for my E71470 code), here's how: Rheingold->Vehicle Management ->Troubleshooting-> Input Fault code.

Misc ramblings, I know little about FSC codes, and if you ask Shawn, he'd say only BMW AG issues FSC codes tied to VIN although there are some generators and it's possible to get some FSC codes for maps, ... You can extract an FSC code using Esys, import it to activate feature, ... So let's say we ask few ZCP owners to extract their FSC code, then you need a cryptographer/cryptoanalist like TM to take a crack at it...

ferrarif1 mentioned that you can get ISTA/D working with an ICOM emulator, unsure if ISTA/P works with an ICOM emulator. In any case, all research and futile attempts on my parts and others couldn't get neither suites to work with an emulator, an ICOM unit is needed unless he chimes in with the details.

I will now happily freely code any ZCP cars in the area.

(only payment required is the extraction of your FSC code!)

Reverse-dumped frankensteinaries (with flasthseg1/seg2 individually replaced) didn't work, dme wouldn't accept them. no obvious sign as to why since I matched flashseg checksums in the header xml. but my approach is likely misguided.

Time for bed. My girlfriend's probably pissed.

[aboulfad]

Well have a good night (although it's 5am?) my wife loves it when I am in my garage

[ferrarif1]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

...or 004C: "Conversion, deactivate power reduction"

...and this makes me really wish I had ISTA/P working. Set local ethernet to 169.254.0.1 and have the USB interface (disabled though) set per networksetup.exe and it's been at 169.254.0.8... set EDIABAS.ini to have remote host at car's IP wit port 6801 left as-is... really wish I could get stable ICOM emulation over ENET but perhaps my macbook+vm-over-USB-ethernet dongle's getting in the way. Should provision myself a native Windows laptop temporarily, and also get an ICOM cable I guess.

To keep up momentum, I'm going to try re-rolled swfl binaries, probably now, and then get some sleep.

Were you looking at conversions in ISTA/D or ISTA/P?

I do have ISTA/P working with the emulator and will take another look at the conversions available, these may have changed since I updated psdzdata to 58.3.

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by ferrarif1

Were you looking at conversions in ISTA/D or ISTA/P?

I do have ISTA/P working with the emulator and will take another look at the conversions available, these may have changed since I updated psdzdata to 58.3.

I was looking at conversions from the doc the "Help" button launches for the generator that's launched from the ISTA/P launcher.

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

I was looking at conversions from the doc the "Help" button launches for the generator that's launched from the ISTA/P launcher.

...still don't quite have programming mode available in ISTA/D but I can probably get there--got part-way there and could get beyond the 'run test first' window, but measurements plan didn't work. If I can try to apply via ISTA/D then getting that working should be my priority tomorrow I suppose.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

...still don't quite have programming mode available in ISTA/D but I can probably get there--got part-way there and could get beyond the 'run test first' window, but measurements plan didn't work. If I can try to apply via ISTA/D then getting that working should be my priority tomorrow I suppose.

Ok you are getting the same error as most of us tried over at cartech... And we were all using ISTA/D standalone, ENET cable... Shouldn't you be sleeping now

[packetpilot]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Ok you are getting the same error as most of us tried over at cartech... And we were all using ISTA/D standalone, ENET cable... Shouldn't you be sleeping now

Yeah but I've got it sorted now, kinda thinking about going back out to test. Measurements calculation fails but I'm hoping that's because I'm in simulation mode.

Wondering too if I should copy working EDIABAS.INI from the rheingold embedded folder to the ista/p since that seems to work, but likely would be different since there's no icom emulation at play in my working ista/d...

EDIT: for reference

    <!-- Enable Programming -->
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.DebugLevel" value="2" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.Enabled" value="true" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.ExpertMode" value="true" /> 
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.UseAIF" value="true" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.SCHNELLE_BAUDRATE" value="true" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.TESTER_ID" value="0" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.TEST_CHECKSUMME" value="false" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.U_PROG_FLAG" value="false" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.WITH_MOSTFIREWALL" value="false" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.FORCE_PROG_PROGRAM" value="false" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.PsdzDataPath" value="C:\Program Files (x86)\Rheingold\PSdZ\data" />
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.PsdzProg.InitOnAppStartup" value="true" />

    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.CoapiErrorLogPath" value="..\..\..\Logs" />
    <!-- not sure about that, not tested !!!! -->
    <add key="BMW.Rheingold.Programming.CoapiBase.CoapiSearchPath" value="C:\Program Files (x86)\Rheingold\PSdZ\data" /> 
    <!-- not sure about that, not tested !!!! -->

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

... (although it's 5am?) my wife loves it when I am in my garage

You must be married for a long time now

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

...
You must be married for a long time now

hahaha yes just like you :?

[packetpilot]

No dice, wasn't because of simulation mode.

16-05-15 06:09:50,839 [Thread-15] [WARN] [] com.bmw.psdz.vehicle.base.topology.access.EthernetAccessLinkImpl: connection test failed. Attempt 0 of 3
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect
	at java.net.DualStackPlainSocketImpl.waitForConnect(Native Method)
	at java.net.DualStackPlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
	at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
	at com.bmw.psdz.vehicle.base.topology.access.EthernetAccessLinkImpl.getSocketAddress(EthernetAccessLinkImpl.java:137)
	at com.bmw.psdz.http.server.HttpServiceImpl.activateHttpServerConnection(HttpServiceImpl.java:92)
	at com.bmw.psdz.http.server.HttpServiceImpl.onOpen(HttpServiceImpl.java:189)
	at com.bmw.psdz.uc.ConnectionImpl.notifyOpen(ConnectionImpl.java:92)
	at com.bmw.psdz.uc.ConnectionImpl.open(ConnectionImpl.java:116)
	at com.bmw.psdz.uc.ConnectionProviderImpl.safeOpen(ConnectionProviderImpl.java:35)
	at com.bmw.psdz.uc.ConnectionProviderImpl.createAndOpen(ConnectionProviderImpl.java:77)
	at com.bmw.psdz.api.impl.connection.ConnectionsImpl$BuilderImpl.createAndOpenConnection(ConnectionsImpl.java:228)
	at com.bmw.psdz.api.impl.connection.ConnectionsImpl$BuilderImpl.open_aroundBody0(ConnectionsImpl.java:152)
	at com.bmw.psdz.api.impl.connection.ConnectionsImpl$BuilderImpl.open_aroundBody1$advice(ConnectionsImpl.java:79)
	at com.bmw.psdz.api.impl.connection.ConnectionsImpl$BuilderImpl.open(ConnectionsImpl.java:1)
	at com.bmw.rheingold.j4n.helper.PSdZConnectionFactory.BuildConnection(PSdZConnectionFactory.java:143)
	at com.bmw.rheingold.j4n.helper.PSdZConnectionFactory.connectOverEthernet(PSdZConnectionFactory.java:77)
16-05-15 06:09:51,328 [CPU-Logger-0] [INFO] [] com.bmw.psdz.core.common.systemlogger.CPULogger: javamem:110,496,584; procmem:388,947,968; proccpu:0.0; systcpu:0.0
16-05-15 06:09:51,832 [CPU-Logger-0] [INFO] [] com.bmw.psdz.core.common.systemlogger.CPULogger: javamem:110,701,176; procmem:388,947,968; proccpu:0.0; systcpu:0.0
16-05-15 06:09:51,840 [Thread-15] [WARN] [] com.bmw.psdz.vehicle.base.topology.access.EthernetAccessLinkImpl: connection test failed. Attempt 1 of 3

...and /now/ i think i'm finally calling it a night.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

Yeah but I've got it sorted now, kinda thinking about going back out to test. Measurements calculation fails but I'm hoping that's because I'm in simulation mode.

if you are obviously connected to the car and If it fails it still won't work, trust me we went over the same steps ... But you seem to be a persistent chap

Wondering too if I should copy working EDIABAS.INI from the rheingold embedded folder to the ista/p since that seems to work, but likely would be different since there's no icom emulation at play in my working ista/d...

When you run any program that uses ediabas, check the path of that running ediabas, this way you know which is which. I had three installs of ediabas which I finally created one .ini and symlinked to other installs.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by thisisdave

16-05-15 06:09:50,839 [Thread-15] [WARN] [] com.bmw.psdz.vehicle.base.topology.access.EthernetAccessLinkImpl: connection test failed. Attempt 0 of 3
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect
...

but don't loose hope, I'll pm u what I got from FF1.

[Clutch M4]

I feel like you two are going to crack a code here haha

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Clutch M4

I feel like you two are going to crack a code here haha

I wish I was that smart... The only person I know capable of that is TM but thisisdave is good too !