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Other observations at close to 1000 miles. I decided to raise the fronts a bit yesterday and I noticed that the spring perches have two sets of allen screws per perch that locks the spring perch in place. They are located on opposite sides and are easily accessible with a 3mm allen wrench.
Compared to KW HAS, the Bilsteins are super easy to adjust height. The threads on the Bilsteins are about 2x wider so one full turn raises or lowers the spring perch by 1/8" vs. 1/16" on KW HAS. Furthermore, even though the springs remained pre loaded with the car raised, the spring perch turns very easily and smoothly compared to KW HAS. This 1/8" increase in ride height had little if any effect on ride quality or handling. I did it to reduce the front rake a bit and also to gain a bit of clearance as I plan on adding a front lip very soon. |
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11-01-2016, 01:30 PM | #51 |
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Just installed my PSS10 on my passive suspension 2016 M4.
As a bit of history - I've had H&R Sports, KW V3 and Dinan adjustable height springs on my 2015 M3, I did JRZ RSTwo Touring on my 2015 M4, and just did PSS10 on my 2016 M4. I was all set to do the Ohlins, but got the PSS10s for such a smokin deal that I thought I'd give them a shot. I've only driven a few hundred miles so far, but my impressions, for a street suspension, are overwhelmingly positive. It really reminds me of my 991 C2S that had the sport PASM suspension, 20mm lower with more aggressive dampers and PASM programming, except obviously, the PSS10s are passive. The SPASM suspension (nice acronym, Porsche) is unbearably stiff on Sport Plus (small bumps really upset the car), but is really great on Sport or Normal, and the PSS10s remind me of that. Slightly more busy than passive stock especially under 30 mph, but very composed and absorbs medium bumps better. I'd say that large bumps, especially a few in a row, feel a bit harsher, but still stockish feeling; this doesn't feel very aftermarket at all, which is a compliment. They don't feel as harsh as the M4's active suspension on Sport+ either. I haven't tried them in anger or on track yet, but for a street suspension on something you just want to look better and drive with better control, the PSS10 are a great solution. I think that the JRZ RStwo ride a bit better, but they're 50-75% more expensive and require more maintenance. |
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On PSS10, after 5K miles, damping still feels just as good as when new. No problems whatsoever going over that same track. car still very well damped and doesn't oscillate or bottom out. I'm sure it's softened up a bit, but it's not noticeable to me in regular driving. Still controls the car very well on the freeway over large bumps, small bumps, etc. Still zero noise of any kind coming from the suspension. After screwing around w/ the damper settings the first few weeks, I settled at front: 4 and rear: 5 and have had no need or desire to mess w/ the settings at all since then. This is an excellent product at a great price. Hopefully, it continues to hold up for the long term. |
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I really appreciate it. Now, can you tell me How 4 front and 5 in the back compare to stock passive suspension Thanks |
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04-27-2017, 09:23 PM | #57 | |
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Let me put it this way... they ride better now than the car ever did with KW HAS even before stock dampers went to crap. Some may feel ride quality is even better than stock passive b/c the damping is much more controlled overall. Also, setting ride height is just as important in preserving ride quality. The car needs suspension travel to ride well. Mine isn't slammed - maybe lowered about 1" front and .5" rear. |
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Not really sure where Del Mar is, but I paid $300 for basic installation in Southern California, i.e. no corner weighting and no alignment. Supremepower did a great job. I've also been to EAS for other mods. They also have a lot of experience w/ M3s and BMWs in general.
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05-19-2017, 04:22 PM | #62 |
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Did my installation last week and I absolutely love the system. Mine were set and 6 front and back. I'm glad the high speed floating feeling is gone. BTW thanks to Tom from EAS! They did superb job. Thank to everybody for their imputes.
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So can you slam with these? I’m lookinh at options but I like my car very low. I’m currently on ED springs they are ok(very low) but I wish I could a just the fronts a tad lower.
Seeing few posts people are mentioning 1 inch max drop how is that possible? |
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08-07-2018, 01:17 PM | #64 |
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The PSS10 drop range is not very low, it's because of the number of turns they allow for and the length of the spring plus the spring itself is a bit long
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I've had my PSS10 on my Audi B8 S4 for around 60k. Even after 60k, it's still rock solid, does not have the floaty feeling and does not bottom out. The Bilstein coilover is definitely solid and if I am to go full coilover, this is what I would go with.
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