2016 BMW M4 GTS Testing with Bigger Rear Wing on the Nurburgring

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

GT3 RS is sex on wheels, IMO. Thing looks phenomenal, IMO. Looks and sounds and performs the part. Plus it has 345 kg of downforce at 125 mph.

Fixed...

[///Mikey F80]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

It won't. They are and will always be way off the pace set by the big boys. Just like the m3 GTS couldn't hang with a 996 GT3 RS which was 11 year old at the time this will be LUCKY if it can keep pace with a 2007 Base GT3. 2007 party in 2017 and still losing. LOL

So let me get this straight... You're comparing a car (2007 GT3) with a BASE PRICE of $106k in 2007 to a car that in 2016/2017 that will have a total optioned price of nearly the same? That's fair You said it yourself, the M3 is always off the pace set by the "big boys". You're comparing two completely different cars, one much more expensive and track oriented than the other and you're acting like it's so hilarious that the lower priced, less track oriented one is losing.

You're the one who's losing, losing a grip on reality. And there isn't a lot of competition in the performance sedan segment? You're joking right? Because there's far more competition in that segment both in price and performance than in your beloved GT3 segment. FAR MORE.

I do have to give you credit though, you're the daftest person I've ever seen on these forums. Goes to show there's an idiot in every crowd.

[FilipMPower]

Originally Posted by K19BMW

I dont mean in just the m4 gts. Bmw has the worst interior out of any comparable german car

I guess you're right. It's sad as the interior quality really reflects on how much the car company really tries to impress their customers, such as most mercedes interiors today. In most BMWs, the interior quality sometimes just makes you think that they really just try to minimize costs and maximize profit. However, some BMW interiors are really waaaay ahead of some mercedes, for example 5 series vs E-class or 6 series vs CLS.

[///Mikey F80]

Originally Posted by K19BMW

I dont mean in just the m4 gts. Bmw has the worst interior out of any comparable german car

In your opinion. I love it when people state their opinions as if they are facts accepted by everyone in the known universe.

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by ///Mikey e90

So let me get this straight... You're comparing a car (2007 GT3) with a BASE PRICE of $106k in 2007 to a car that in 2016/2017 that will have a total optioned price of nearly the same? That's fair You said it yourself, the M3 is always off the pace set by the "big boys". You're comparing two completely different cars, one much more expensive and track oriented than the other and you're acting like it's so hilarious that the lower priced, less track oriented one is losing.

You're the one who's losing, losing a grip on reality. And there isn't a lot of competition in the performance sedan segment? You're joking right? Because there's far more competition in that segment both in price and performance than in your beloved GT3 segment. FAR MORE.

I do have to give you credit though, you're the daftest person I've ever seen on these forums. Goes to show there's an idiot in every crowd.

Yea you just proved who the idiot is LOL.

The m3 GTS in 2011 came out specifically to compete with the Gt3, and other cars of that nature. It's a pure track car nothing more. It failed miserably. It couldn't compete with an 11 year old GT3 let alone one of the same year, and to boot the m3 GTS was more expensive (98k euro for the Gt3 and 115 for the GTS LOL). The only one losing grip on reality is you buddy. And it would seem facts and general knowledge allude you as well.

m4 GTS is likely going to be 130-150K and certainly won't be competing with cars at the range. Again, it will be coming to a 2007 part some 10 years later and still won't be winning anything. It's not like it will come to the U.S. anyway.

And actually there is far more competition to the GT3. The 458, the McLaren, the r8, amg GTS, corvette, Aston Martin, just to name a few cars overall. It's the GT3 fault it stands out amongst the crowd.

There are really only three players in the mid size sedan market, bmw, Mercedes and Audi.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Alumac

Could be worse.

What's with that stanky leg?

[Flying Ace]

$110k, I'll buy

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

What's with that stanky leg?

moar camber?

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

What's with that stanky leg?

Because downforce

[Sean@PSI]

The wing is so necessary on the track, it's needed for stability and under heavy braking 100%.

I hope the most aggressive setup makes it to USA!!! So excited!!

[K19BMW]

Originally Posted by ///Mikey e90

In your opinion. I love it when people state their opinions as if they are facts accepted by everyone in the known universe.

Its obviously my opinion. Just like its the opinion of every car magazine that i have read that compares the 3/4 serious to the c-class to the a4/a5/s4/s5. In which they all say mb and audi have better interiors. Plus the fact that i have sat in all of those cars defintely helps me form MY opinion

[solstice]

Originally Posted by RingMeister01

Because downforce

That made me laugh. Obviously!

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Sean@PSI

The wing is so necessary on the track, it's needed for stability and under heavy braking 100%.

I hope the most aggressive setup makes it to USA!!! So excited!!

Agreed, bring the full monthy or nothing at all.

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

Porsche is the benchmark for sports cars and any segment they compete. Nothing else comes close. And there is fierce competition against everyone always aiming for the 911 yet none for 50 plus years have accomplished.

Bmw is the benchmark for the mid size sedan category but there isn't a lot of competition in that segment.

haha no one even comes close? So in the realm of sports cars and entry level super cars the likes of McLaren and Ferrari don't even "come close". lol even the new C7 can go head to head with the 911.

By the way my challenge still stands. I think we're all anxiously waiting on a single post that has nothing to do with Porsches.

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Impossible. He even uses two different screen names to spew his Porsche fanboyism. Revcrazy is also Wolfinwolfsclothing.

Yep I'm not sure if he got banned from the M3/4 forums but if he was then its very likely revcrazy is just his alt, which I would assume in grounds for another ban if true.

[MParallel]

Hmm shame on me. I was at the Nürburgring this past weekend, but have missed this car.