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My car is mineral white. I have a white cross member with two large cutouts in it.
Above that is some sound deadening and above that it the black 'parcel shelf' (it felt like plastic to me not wood?) So, if i've got this right, you cut the existing two large holes in the cross member metal beneath the black shelf....then mounted them to the underside of the black shelf (the black shelf that you can see if you were sat in the rear seats.....and cut away enough of that black shelf in a circle so that if you were sat in the rear seats you could peer over the rear headrests and see the face of the subs mounted below the black shelf, firing upwards towards the rear window? I'm in the uk....... |
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My car is mineral white. I have a white cross member with two large cutouts in it.
Above that is some sound deadening and above that it the black 'parcel shelf' (it felt like plastic to me not wood?) So, if i've got this right, you cut the existing two large holes in the cross member metal beneath the black shelf....then mounted them to the underside of the black shelf (the black shelf that you can see if you were sat in the rear seats.....and cut away enough of that black shelf in a circle so that if you were sat in the rear seats you could peer over the rear headrests and see the face of the subs mounted below the black shelf, firing upwards towards the rear window? I'm in the uk....... |
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Hey! Great equipment and Excellent write up! I saw no mention of it, and I don't know what level of HK ("688" ?) sound you had in your car at stock but, did you not need to run an in line "MOST" ("SDMI25") convertor in your wiring? What about your instrument panels Center - Mid & Tweet? You pretty much indicate that all you had was: * The "Technispnp" Harness (Which one?) & * The Helix 6 Channel Amp. Also, I don't understand why you drilled a hole in your cupholder tray to run a USB connection ("... for your iPhone") and what does this have to do with this set up?!? After all this time, are the PHD's still holding up and well recommended? If so, I will definitely go with these instead of the Focal ES100K's or Audison K4E's I was considering. Why was it necessary to re-wire (14 or 12?) the Mid's.? Were capacitors included? Mine (F83) has the HK - 688 and I am planning to upgrade with * A "Helix V-8 DSPMK2" & * Audisons or Earthquakes ( - which I've read are the better choice) for the Underseats. I am not sure if I could power all, including the front Center, without having to add a separate monoblock (for the Audisons or Earthquakes). Please advise. Cheers!
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I ordered mine without the HK; just the 'HiFi'. With this spec, it didn't use the MOST bus, and so there was no need for a converter. It sent out an analog signal. I knew I was going to upgrade the audio, so I saved myself some $$. Quote:
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Hey! Thank you for your excellent and comprehensive response! Since I do have the "HK - "688", I guess I will need the "SDMI25" I wish I would've seen your post long ago! You didn't need to drill onto your cup holder tray. Considering all the money you spent on your upgrade, you just could've purchased that Center (under Dash) Console cover with the USB connection. You simply plug that into the back of your head unit with special (VW/Audi-USB) cable from ebay. Ok., So I'm going to have: Oh! You're correct. The "P6" is of slightly Better("Burr/Brown" < THD) Quality! 2 Channels -> Front Doors Mid's. & Tweets "PHD - Studio 4.1 Pro" Kit** 2 Channels -> Rear Side Panels Mid's. & Tweets - Stock HK ("fill") - 1 Channel --> Center Instrument Panel Mid & Tweet - Stock HK (fill - also) 1 Channel --> "BiAmp Cables" (Run in parallel) Underseat ("Earthquake") Sub's. Does this sound Correct/Doable ? Cheers! ** Where can I purchase these - outside of Italia? No one seems to sell them in the U.S..
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I've seen that some drive woofers through monoblock single channel (4 0hms --> 2 ohms Parallel - dedicated) Amps. So how should I drive/wire the ("Earthquakes" - Which, I believe aren't mid basses) underseats? Again... ""!! Cheers!
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Just because people do something doesn't make it correct. Keep them separated- left and right, as they should be.
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I'm new to this so, that's why I'm researching & asking questions all over the corresponding forums/threads. As I'm presuming fill means something sonically, doesn't the ("Helix") DSP allow the capability to tune and assign/distribute the proper frequencies to each channel? If I'm wrong here, please suggest the proper connections - hopefully for 6 channels. Would you recommend other speakers for the underseats? "Jehnerts" are true mid-basses and "Audisons" also, don't have the same frequency response. Cheers!
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With 6 channels and active, leave the rears alone and you're fine. Quasi-active with passives or even caps on the tweeters then you can utilize the rears, passively. There is nothing that you can put under the seats that would be a true subbass setup but even if you could it would be at the sacrifice of having a good midbass. Jehnerts will easily play into the 40hz range and do it well, barring any potential abuse or shoddy media.
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Ok., got ya! After this, "quasi.... active, ...caps"?!? Please show me a connection / wire flow - Such as: * DSP/Amp.: "Helix P6 DSP MK2" > 2 Channels -> Front Doors Mid's. & Tweets "PHD - Studio 4.1 Pro" Kit > 2 Channels -> Rear Side Panels Mid's. & Tweets - 2nd "PHD - Studio 4.1 Pro" Kit > ---> ---> ---> Center Instrument Panel Mid & Tweet - Stock HK ("Passive") > 2 Channels -> Underseat ("Earthquakes" or "Audisons") Sub's. Would this work? Thanks again! P.S.: From another forum... Did you used to be a "PHD" reseller??
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Yes, I was the US national sales manager/representative as well as national distributor.
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Ok., So I would need at least 7 channels to power that center channel! If I were to have to get another amp. , I guess it would be best to use that (2 Channel) second Amp., to power the Sub's., correct? Cheers!
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I would honestly set aside the focus of the center channel feeling of necessity, it's really not, at all. Aside from that you would also need the same or very similar driver(s) for it to even begin making it worth it. If you really feel that strongly about rears and center channel then perhaps you should also consider the UP 7DSP.
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The OP left out/omitted his Dash speakers. Knowing that they're there, I just can't! [Edit.] I'll stick with the Helix P6. What's a good (& Not too expensive) 2 Channel (Bass) Amp. recommendation??
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I'm really sorry but leaving questions unanswered and going against just about every bit of solid advice I'm really not sure how I can help you here.
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The only Info., that I can think of, that have not responded to is... "FL."!! I posted this solution - Quote:
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As a shop owner and 'sales man' there is no upside to me telling some to Not purchase something. Quite the opposite actually since it results in less sales which is counterproductive in a sales based business. That being said I have no motive or gain but providing that same advice here.
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