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      02-09-2016, 08:33 PM   #287
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I'll keep my incandescent bulbs thank you very much. I've had LED's burn out in tail lights, and I've seen LCI E46 and E92 M3's (...and G35's) with burnt out LED's. I'd rather replace a bulb than an entire tail light assembly.
so i guess you must prefer roll down manual windows vs auto, since its less likely to break and cheaper to fix
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I'll keep my incandescent bulbs thank you very much. I've had LED's burn out in tail lights, and I've seen LCI E46 and E92 M3's (...and G35's) with burnt out LED's. I'd rather replace a bulb than an entire tail light assembly.
so i guess you must prefer roll down manual windows vs auto, since its less likely to break and cheaper to fix
Lol! Ahhhh! I was waiting for a response like this. I've had manual seats in one of my E92 ZCP M3's, so why not?!?
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so i guess you must prefer roll down manual windows vs auto, since its less likely to break and cheaper to fix
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Lol! Ahhhh! I was waiting for a response like this. I've had manual seats in one of my E92 ZCP M3's, so why not?!?
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Anything and everything to help save weight these days
No, it wasn't about the weight to me. I purchased the car off of the lot; it was an ordered vehicle that a buyer reneged on (...and that was 99.9% perfect in terms of color and options). He was being a smart ass by mentioning power versus manual windows. I don't need power fore/aft control of seats (...they had power bolsters and lumbar support in the E92), and when BMW changed that for the MY11.5 E92 M3, I didn't really feel that I was missing anything because of having only partially powered seats. I'm the only person in and out of my cars anyway. In my M4, for example, I can count on one hand the number of times that I've adjusted the driver's seat in my year and a half of ownership.

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Anything to make them simpler. I'd gladly go with manual AND cloth seats.
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Anything to make them simpler. I'd gladly go with manual AND cloth seats.
I almost went with cloth this time around, but I wanted the leather covered dash/glove box/upper doors/etc., so it posed an issue. I had Speed Cloth seats in my '05 ZCP and loved them.
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I saw 1 parked

Up to 5 or so C63s now... having a hard time telling these apart from regular C's.

I think the m3/m4 count is up to 2 billion now.
funny thing is as soon as i posted this I saw an ATS-V on the freeway - grey, pretty sweet.

yep the ratio of m3/m4's to c63 ats-v is just plain ridiculous. much like the activity on their respective forums.

I heard that the leftover 2015's C63 S a few months ago were going for 7-10k off msrp.... that brings the price back down a bit, feel bad for the guys that bought it full sticker only a few months prior. Considering the crappy lease deals I would think most people purchased the C63 S instead of leased.

edit: adding link for under msrp in case of anticipated flak from mb fans.

13k under msrp
http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-c6...3-fs-c63s.html

7.7k under msrp
http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-c6...d-pricing.html
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funny thing is as soon as i posted this I saw an ATS-V on the freeway - grey, pretty sweet.

yep the ratio of m3/m4's to c63 ats-v is just plain ridiculous. much like the activity on their respective forums.

I heard that the leftover 2015's C63 S a few months ago were going for 7-10k off msrp.... that brings the price back down a bit, feel bad for the guys that bought it full sticker only a few months prior. Considering the crappy lease deals I would think most people purchased the C63 S instead of leased.[/url]
My buddy picked up his custom ordered C63S beginning of December, a 2016 model. He got it for invoice, so there are deals to be had. He traded in his M4 that he also got for invoice. I was very impressed by his C63S, I kinda want one. If Mercedes would lease them out for $600-$700 a month like the M3/M4, you would see a lot more of them on the road.
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My buddy picked up his custom ordered C63S beginning of December, a 2016 model. He got it for invoice, so there are deals to be had. He traded in his M4 that he also got for invoice. I was very impressed by his C63S, I kinda want one. If Mercedes would lease them out for $600-$700 a month like the M3/M4, you would see a lot more of them on the road.
yup if they were offering leases at 600-700 min drive off that would be ridiculous... AND they would be losing money, so not happening.

probably i would get an ats-v before a c63...

no dct on either, so i need the one with manual.. sedan please.
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yup if they were offering leases at 600-700 min drive off that would be ridiculous... AND they would be losing money, so not happening.

probably i would get an ats-v before a c63...

no dct on either, so i need the one with manual.. sedan please.
manual option?

M3 or ATS-V

600-700 lease for a C63 will never happen as those cars are in the mid 70's to 80's
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I almost went with cloth this time around, but I wanted the leather covered dash/glove box/upper doors/etc., so it posed an issue. I had Speed Cloth seats in my '05 ZCP and loved them.
Never had cloth seats before, plus I figured a Signal Green F80 with a 6MT and cloth seats will be a very rare bird! I really wish they would do alcantara bolsters though, that would have been very cool.
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Cadillac charges $2000 for their automatic transmission. For who, for what?
i opted for the auto tranny

so my wife can drive it once our other lease comes due later this year
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Never had cloth seats before, plus I figured a Signal Green F80 with a 6MT and cloth seats will be a very rare bird! I really wish they would do alcantara bolsters though, that would have been very cool.
Alcantara would have been nice as long as it was implemented better than what they offered us back in 2005 with the ZCP M3. That pattern looked like something from a Delta 747, which is why I passed and chose Speed Cloth instead.

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i opted for the auto tranny

so my wife can drive it once our other lease comes due later this year
Keep her happy I guess. My point was, for all the nickel and diming BMW does, at least they don't charge for the ZF8.
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Keep her happy I guess. My point was, for all the nickel and diming BMW does, at least they don't charge for the ZF8.
agree on that.

I wouldn't mind spending $3k on a better transmission on the V.

But since Chevy/Caddy charges the A8 tranny as an option on their corvette/CTS-V/ATS-V models I had no choice but pay for it.
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