2015 M4 vs 2016 Camaro SS

CirrusSR22 · 11-07-2016, 05:04 PM

Bunch of SS 1LE reviews out today with back-to-back M4 Competition pack comparisons.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/07/2...-drive-review/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/20...e-first-drive/

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-...ro-1le-review/

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-track-package

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...4211CD7089EF8C

kitesurfer · 11-07-2016, 05:37 PM

Interesting Quotes I'l leave here from the reviews :

Motor Trend:
After several laps in the Camaro SS 1LE, we hopped into another competitor car: a 2017 BMW M4 with the Competition package (more power, adaptive M suspension, M Dynamic Mode settings, a revised steering ratio, revised DSC and active M differential settings, 20-inch alloy wheels, black trim and accents, a sport exhaust with dual tailpipes, and M Sport seats). With the Competition package the BMW M4 makes 444 hp (19 hp more than stock) from 5,500 to 7,300 rpm and 406 lb-ft from 1,850 to 5,500 rpm.

Power of the 3.0-liter twin-turbo I-6 was linear, and like both 1LE models, third gear was used for most of the track, with a brief shift into fourth gear on the longest straight. The M4’s steering, however, felt more artificial and light off-center compared to both Camaro models (and the Mustang) and didn’t offer as much feedback around the track. Body roll was also much more prevalent than in the Camaro SS 1LE. In fact, of the four cars we drove on track, the M4 in which we induced oversteer and a four-wheel drift on a particularly technical high-speed decreasing-radius right-hand corner.

Not only is the Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE a better track day car, but it’s also priced significantly less than the BMW M4 coupe. The SS 1LE starts at $44,400 compared with $71,945 for an M4 with the manual transmission and just the Competition package. It’s no wonder that the 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE placed fourth and the 2016 BMW M4

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But it wasn’t until I got out of the SS 1LE and into a new BMW M4 outfitted with the Competition Package that I really discovered how well sorted this Camaro is. While the turbocharged BMW has an advantage over the SS down the main straight – or so its heads-up display indicated by the BMW’s 2-3mph higher rate of speed before mashing the brakes for Turn 1 – the SS 1LE consistently outguns it in turns of both engineering and dynamics.
2017 Chevrolet Camaro 1LE
Bradley Iger/Digital Trends

For instance, where the BMW’s shifter feels rubbery and vague, I was never concerned about missing a shift with the SS 1LE’s stout short throw unit. I’ve also always been a fan of GM’s rev-matching technology, which can be turned on or off at will with just a flick of the steering wheel-mounted paddles on SS models, 1LE or otherwise.

The M4 certainly offers its own brand of driver engagement on track, but there’s no question that the car is out-braked and out-gripped by the Camaro SS 1LE. In sections where the BMW wanted to push, the Camaro typically just held the line, and when Camaro’s limits of grip were reached, it gave way predictably and progressively.

Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/20...#ixzz4PMy10oyT

ClothSeats · 11-07-2016, 06:27 PM

http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/c...to/first-drive

Good chassis and powertrain, just needs a better exterior and visibility. I don't expect the interior to compete with a full leather M4 for $45k.

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CirrusSR22 Major 342 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Bunch of SS 1LE reviews out today with back-to-back M4 Competition pack comparisons. http://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/07/2...-drive-review/ http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/20...e-first-drive/ http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-...ro-1le-review/ http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-track-package http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...4211CD7089EF8C Last edited by CirrusSR22; 11-07-2016 at 05:10 PM..
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kitesurfer Banned 543 Rep 1,338 Posts Drives: Round n' Round Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Paradise iTrader: (10) Garage List Aprilia Tuono 1100 RF [0.00]	Interesting Quotes I'l leave here from the reviews : Motor Trend: After several laps in the Camaro SS 1LE, we hopped into another competitor car: a 2017 BMW M4 with the Competition package (more power, adaptive M suspension, M Dynamic Mode settings, a revised steering ratio, revised DSC and active M differential settings, 20-inch alloy wheels, black trim and accents, a sport exhaust with dual tailpipes, and M Sport seats). With the Competition package the BMW M4 makes 444 hp (19 hp more than stock) from 5,500 to 7,300 rpm and 406 lb-ft from 1,850 to 5,500 rpm. Power of the 3.0-liter twin-turbo I-6 was linear, and like both 1LE models, third gear was used for most of the track, with a brief shift into fourth gear on the longest straight. The M4’s steering, however, felt more artificial and light off-center compared to both Camaro models (and the Mustang) and didn’t offer as much feedback around the track. Body roll was also much more prevalent than in the Camaro SS 1LE. In fact, of the four cars we drove on track, the M4 in which we induced oversteer and a four-wheel drift on a particularly technical high-speed decreasing-radius right-hand corner. Not only is the Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE a better track day car, but it’s also priced significantly less than the BMW M4 coupe. The SS 1LE starts at $44,400 compared with $71,945 for an M4 with the manual transmission and just the Competition package. It’s no wonder that the 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE placed fourth and the 2016 BMW M4 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// But it wasn’t until I got out of the SS 1LE and into a new BMW M4 outfitted with the Competition Package that I really discovered how well sorted this Camaro is. While the turbocharged BMW has an advantage over the SS down the main straight – or so its heads-up display indicated by the BMW’s 2-3mph higher rate of speed before mashing the brakes for Turn 1 – the SS 1LE consistently outguns it in turns of both engineering and dynamics. 2017 Chevrolet Camaro 1LE Bradley Iger/Digital Trends For instance, where the BMW’s shifter feels rubbery and vague, I was never concerned about missing a shift with the SS 1LE’s stout short throw unit. I’ve also always been a fan of GM’s rev-matching technology, which can be turned on or off at will with just a flick of the steering wheel-mounted paddles on SS models, 1LE or otherwise. The M4 certainly offers its own brand of driver engagement on track, but there’s no question that the car is out-braked and out-gripped by the Camaro SS 1LE. In sections where the BMW wanted to push, the Camaro typically just held the line, and when Camaro’s limits of grip were reached, it gave way predictably and progressively. Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/20...#ixzz4PMy10oyT Last edited by kitesurfer; 11-08-2016 at 01:33 PM..
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ClothSeats Lieutenant 341 Rep 561 Posts Drives: 17 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/c...to/first-drive Good chassis and powertrain, just needs a better exterior and visibility. I don't expect the interior to compete with a full leather M4 for $45k.
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