Stock f82 barely faster then 2021 M340i

[e90335e36m3]

[QUOTE=Monkey Throttle;28066438]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I could care less about auto rev matching. I've been heel n toe downshifting since 1999. My car stays in Sport +.

As for the design defect, I got the F82 for heavy track duty. Factoring in a +$3k rod bearing issue is 5% of the value of the car. As for the crank hub on the F82, my research indicated that the only issues exist with modded horse power. In stock form the crank hub is proven reliable.

Additionally, I have not heard of warranties denying claims on crank hubs on stock cars. I have heard of warranties denying claims on rod bearings.

If I'm hesitant to buy an E9x because of known issues, so too will other other buyers have the same apprehension. Especially for a spirited track usage car which all ///M should be.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's going to hurt the F9x variants till the end of time. Especially as the vehicle value diminishes as the rod bearing repair cost increases.

You're also the first person I've heard say the 6MT is comparable on both cars.
But since I wouldn't be able to test drive them back to back on the track, I listened to a number of reviews that said what I have described. F82 better manual transmission than E90.
For the purposes of this conversation, Are your cars even manual??

As a E90 owner you might think my arguments are flawed because they disrupt your narrative. But that doesn't make it so.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I read your post literally, and you're the one who boiled your decision-making process on car buying to hearsay with respect to transmission and based on design defects that only affect one platform.

Let me know when you drive an E90 6MT then come back and have this discussion.

[Monkey Throttle]

[QUOTE=e90335e36m3;28066670]

Originally Posted by Monkey Throttle

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I read your post literally, and you're the one who boiled your decision-making process on car buying to [COLOR="Red"]hearsay[/COLOR] with respect to transmission and based on design defects that only affect one platform.

Let me know when you drive an E90 6MT then come back and have this discussion.

I'm sure it's great. But I made the decision I made for the reasons I made them. No ragrets. Not even a vowel.

[e90335e36m3]

[QUOTE=Monkey Throttle;28066681]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I'm sure it's great. But I made the decision I made for the reasons I made them. No ragrets. Not even a vowel.

That's great, and I'm sure you're getting much more enjoyment out of your cars than I ever will out of mine and that's what matters the most.

[Monkey Throttle]

[QUOTE=e90335e36m3;28066694]

Originally Posted by Monkey Throttle

That's great, and I'm sure you're getting much more enjoyment out of your cars than I ever will out of mine and that's what matters the most.

I certainly don't worry about $3k rod bearings while I'm romping it at the track.

[e90335e36m3]

[QUOTE=Monkey Throttle;28066759]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I certainly don't worry about $3k rod bearings while I'm romping it at the track.

Haha, neither am I but if I could find the right manual E92 I'd be ok selling the M4CS for it.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Throw a set of proper dampers on E9X and it's good to go. My buddy's felt every bit as good as my F82 and then some, he's rocking Bilstein Clubsports. Actually my biggest surprise was that I much preferred F8X steering to E9X. E9X is just way too assisted, to the point that it feels like EPS. What I loved about driving it back to back with my car was they both share the same fundamental driving characteristics - very easy to get in and get comfortable with

Oh and we are the exact same page about picking up a E9X once things settle down I love the idea of picking one up and "restomodding" with more modern hardware

You've nailed it about the steering!! I'm in complete agreement - the ZCP steer is clearly superior to the E9X IMO. Thanks for the heads up on the suspension upgrade but I'll likely keep it stock (or pretty close to it) for my use case as a family mover

[NYG]

Originally Posted by rugbybro

i mean how else are those guys gonna measure their d*cks?

I can mash the accelerator better than u bro.

Brb getting lapped by 100 hp Miatas.

[Monkey Throttle]

[QUOTE=e90335e36m3;28066769]

Originally Posted by Monkey Throttle

Haha, neither am I but if I could find the right manual E92 I'd be ok selling the M4CS for it.

Or, you could just get an F82 M4 ZCP with a manual and call it a day. If you don't increase the HP the crank hub isn't an issue and you won't have to mod the suspension.

But that would be flawed thinking.

Peace!

[bimmerboyE92]

Originally Posted by NYG

I can mash the accelerator better than u bro.

Brb getting lapped by 100 hp Miatas.

My Miata has 116hp to the wheels so might be a different animal

[NYG]

Originally Posted by bimmerboyE92

My Miata has 116hp to the wheels so might be a different animal

1 hp in a Miata is like 200 hp in an M340

[Churlesmiller]

Go big or go home don't give credit to the in between models

[KJKelly]

I was considering a new M340 when I bought my 2018 M3 in November 2020. I never test drove one but the weight (3800lbs) and appearance were the deciding factors for me going with the F80. Also, the M340i is totally under-tired for a call of that weight and power. I am sure it a "nicer" daily driver than my M3 but now that I did the CS/GTS coding my M3 is pretty nice on comfort setting.

[amancuso]

I don't give a flying toss what's faster. The M car(s) have always been the total package. It's about how it feels, how it handles and how it accelerates. Sure there are faster cars out there, but would you rather be driving them just for 1/4 mile times? No.

[MethodRR]

Originally Posted by KJKelly

I was considering a new M340 when I bought my 2018 M3 in November 2020. I never test drove one but the weight (3800lbs) and appearance were the deciding factors for me going with the F80. Also, the M340i is totally under-tired for a call of that weight and power. I am sure it a "nicer" daily driver than my M3 but now that I did the CS/GTS coding my M3 is pretty nice on comfort setting.

100% agreed. I went through this evaluation between the M3 and M340i over the summer, and went with the M3 for the same reasons.

The M340 turned out to be a nice commuter, but that's it. The weight and the looks were too much of a turnoff when I personally was looking for a toy. (I don't commute, and so my drives are to run errands/kid stuff or to play around on the back roads)

[Lucille_s55]

M340i is a spectacular car that b58 is really no joke. I do think a stage 1 tuned m4 would walk tf out of a stock 340i though but thats just a guess

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Lucille_s55

M340i is a spectacular car that b58 is really no joke. I do think a stage 1 tuned m4 would walk tf out of a stock 340i though but thats just a guess

Stock for Stock or Tune for Tune on stock hardware, S55 is coming out on top every time. B58 is a really great motor but is way overhyped. Lots of people on the internet making ridiculous claims about B58 and downplaying what is needed to put out those ridiculous power levels. Also, B58 isn't attached to a transmission that is meant to handle higher power loads which I feel like not enough people recognize.

[Lucille_s55]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Stock for Stock or Tune for Tune on stock hardware, S55 is coming out on top every time.

Oh yea no question. Im stomping out mfs with stage 2+ 335i's and Im running a stock s55 lol, I cant imagine if I did an mhd flash tune or something and gained +50whp and +100wt from software overnight. Be lights out to those fools even harder but those b58s are still putting down decent power and probably scare tf out of the s5/c43 amg boys whenever they see them pull up behind