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Yeah, 'stage 2' and they just love the free breathing, cat-less piping.
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Have any of your guys had any issues trying to access the bolts on the belly pan right by the exhaust hangar mount? I'm just wondering if my mid pipe is too close to the side. Also how tight did you make the bolts on the connection between the DP's and the Midpipe?
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The reason I asked about the torque was if I didn't fully tighten them, I could move the midpipe nearer to the centerline of the exhaust shield area, but then there would be some flex to the connection. On other donut style exhaust connections, there was inherent flex to it, which would allow you to have a little bit of adjustability, but with this, once you tighten it down, there is no real movement to the system at all. |
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Ultimately loosening it up (entirely) and tightening it in sequence from the downpipes to the mufflers is the only way to get this perfect. Even then you will probably have to shim your active f brace, regardless of it's additional clearance. I ended up just buying 2mm stainless spacers (washers) and matching bolts (M8x-1.25 x 30mm) with additional length to eat up the shim space but maintain a solid bite into the thread holes.
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Welp just got an email today saying my midpipe is delayed till early to mid September. Ordered late June, guess I didn't make the cut for the last batch that shipped out
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Get used to those ball/socket connections leaking, it will not stop. No matter which way you adjust them, re-tighten the clamps etc... they will leak where the gap in the clamp is no matter the positioning. Ive talked with AA a bit when I first installed my single midpipe and they didn't have an answer that solved this issue. If you are driving along concrete dividers you can hear it "ticking" thru that leak, its also bad on cold starts if you step out of your car while its warming up. It's annoying enough that I just bought a Akra Titanium DP back exhaust to get rid of the ball/socket connections. I do love the sound of the single mid (haven't heard the Akra yet, it comes tomorrow) but the leaking at those connections and the annoying sounds that come with it drove me to buy something else and not even try the EL midpipe (because they have those same connections). Single mid FS btw lol... Edit: AA suggested that overtime, with carbon build up, they should seal up. Its a year later, still the same leak... |
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i used to not mind burbles on the stock ZCP exhaust because they werent too loud and had a deep tone, but now with the EL they are just wild. and plus id much rather hear the engine noise with the EL. i find myself driving in efficient mode (valves open though) more than sport plus now. cant tune so unfortunately stuck with this but pretty sure there is some downside to being in efficient mode
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If you read their description, they're pretty much telling us that this is going to cut your HP and give you some torque:
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Just to give an update on the car as I've been driving it every day this week: The car still sounds good going through the rev range! The issue and something I didn't realize when I first wrote my review is that there is A LOT of rasp when the engine is cold and I turn it to Sport or Sport+ and rev it or drive the car. It is a lot worse than the stock mid pipe when I start it up and just start driving. I basically cannot drive it in sport with a cold engine or it sounds like my an old civic with a too large exhaust. If I let the car sit for 2-3 minutes, there is not nearly as much rasp.
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Here are a few videos I made of the exhaust. First is a cold start in efficient mode and the second is with the exhaust warmed up in Sport mode. Third is in Sport+ and the fourth is in Efficient Mode. I will try to get a cold start video of the car with the flaps open to show how bad it sounds.
The EL midpipe is the only modification I have to the car. It is a stock 2017 F80 with OEM downpipes, OEM ZCP back exhaust and no modifications to the tune. Cold Start in Efficient https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiCSi9Hmp0U Warm engine in Sport . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3A4G9s2s0 Warm Engine in Sport + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0rnB9iI90 Warm Engine in Efficient https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laRitoFB670 |
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I had the car on my lift last night to swap the exhaust after picking up the new Akra. Where the gaps in the clamps were, there's carbon/soot blown down the pipes in both directions. Def wasn't sealing completely, and even after a year, the "buildup of carbon" never sealed the gap despite their claim that it would. Pretty disappointing for an almost $1,000 midpipe to have never been right from the start!
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