Individual ED order

[m3aviator]

I'm working with BMW of Manhattan to order an individual f80. Here's whats in the order sheet so far (pending bmw approval)

Individual Exterior Paint
Individual contrast stitching color
Individual interior color Full Merino Leather
Competition Package
Lighting Package
DCT
Harmon Kardon
Rear Shade

I see that ED price for the car is 60,325. Is there any more room to negotiate after the options are added?

Also I was told if i don't do ED the price of the car would be full msrp, that just sounds like a sales tactic to me. Thanks everyone!

[visi107]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

Also I was told if i don't do ED the price of the car would be full msrp, that just sounds like a sales tactic to me. Thanks everyone!

They are trying to force you to do ED? This doesn't make sense

[MRCUR]

You can certainly negotiate on ED orders just as you can on US orders. I would suggest you negotiate the pricing based on invoice + $XYZ (or - $XYZ if you can) before getting into Individual options.

[m3aviator]

Originally Posted by visi107

They are trying to force you to do ED? This doesn't make sense

I want to do ed but they're talking 14-16 weeks 3 is just for research for the paint.

I've been buying selling for a long time. Just don't know how ed falls into the grand scheme of things.

[TB///M3]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

I'm working with BMW of Manhattan to order an individual f80. Here's whats in the order sheet so far (pending bmw approval)

Individual Exterior Paint
Individual contrast stitching color
Individual interior color Full Merino Leather
Competition Package
Lighting Package
DCT
Harmon Kardon
Rear Shade

I see that ED price for the car is 60,325. Is there any more room to negotiate after the options are added?

Also I was told if i don't do ED the price of the car would be full msrp, that just sounds like a sales tactic to me. Thanks everyone!

It's odd they will force you to do ED.
My CA informed me he has an march allocation that is open.
If you don't mind coming into NJ.
Lemme know if you are interested

[visi107]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

I want to do ed but they're talking 14-16 weeks 3 is just for research for the paint.

I've been buying selling for a long time. Just don't know how ed falls into the grand scheme of things.

I don't think ED alone would cause the delay. The delay is most likely because of all the individual options. And yes both ED MSRP and US MSRP are negotiable. The ED delay will be the re-delivery.

From personal experience and reading what others have said here, Some dealers seem less willing to discount the car for ED than for US delivery.

[m3aviator]

Originally Posted by BluF22

It's odd they will force you to do ED.
My CA informed me he has an march allocation that is open.
If you don't mind coming into NJ.
Lemme know if you are interested

I really want to go for the trip and the experience but I have to weigh that vs waiting 14-16 weeks and not being able to enjoy the car this summer.

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

I want to do ed but they're talking 14-16 weeks 3 is just for research for the paint.

I've been buying selling for a long time. Just don't know how ed falls into the grand scheme of things.

Shoot me a PM. I can probably help with the Individual issues.

[tke743]

Originally Posted by MRCUR

Shoot me a PM. I can probably help with the Individual issues.

As can I, and my dealer has alocations. Makes this issue confusing. FYI delay is most likely the Individual. Just takes longer.

[TB///M3]

Btw..what individual color are you looking at?

[firedown31]

If it's a color BMW has never done before then there could be a significant delay as they figure out the paint process for it. Whether you do a ED or not, you shouldn't pay anywhere close to MSRP for either. Keep in mind, ED MSRP is not a discount at all.

[m3aviator]

So BMW Manhattan just asked me for a 10k non-refundable deposit. And BMW still has to do the r&d for the color.

[sandjam]

How can the price be 60,325 with individual paint, stitching and leather? The paint alone adds 5000.00-10,000.00 to the price, depending on the color. Plus what if the color you want is denied and you only have a choice of colors you don't like. Then you can't get your deposit back? I'd go somewhere else.

[m3aviator]

60,325 is the price of the car before options.

[visi107]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

60,325 is the price of the car before options.

yeah 60325 is base ED MSRP. i don't have any individual stuff on my order but 10k non refundable seems a little crazy

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

So BMW Manhattan just asked me for a 10k non-refundable deposit. And BMW still has to do the r&d for the color.

I would never do that.

[TB///M3]

Originally Posted by visi107

yeah 60325 is base ED MSRP. i don't have any individual stuff on my order but 10k non refundable seems a little crazy

Doesn't sound crazy at all, he's getting some special color that's not
BMW's color pallet, totally custom, dealers is not going to keep that
on their lot. It could be the worlds ugliest color and no one wants it
except for one that didn't pick it up.

[tke743]

Originally Posted by visi107

i don't have any individual stuff on my order but 10k non refundable seems a little crazy

Common for individual. Dealer doesn't want to get stuck with a car that ends up welded to the lot.I had to pay a large deposit too.

[m3aviator]

Originally Posted by BluF22

Doesn't sound crazy at all, he's getting some special color that's not
BMW's color pallet, totally custom, dealers is not going to keep that
on their lot. It could be the worlds ugliest color and no one wants it
except for one that didn't pick it up.

It's a Porsche color and I can assure it amazing !!!

[BavarianFanatic]

The push for ED doesn't make sense. Do these guys typically do ED orders? I ask because for non-M cars, ED orders are not taken from their allocations. In other words, they can sell as many ED orders as they wish regardless of allocation. But, M cars DO come from their allocation. Maybe they think it doesn't?

The deposit is steep, but not unheard of for a high dollar ED configuration. However, your state laws may actually negate the non-refundable bit.

It sounds like they're not comfortable with this order for some reason, like they're unsure of your commitment.

[m3aviator]

Originally Posted by BavarianFanatic

The push for ED doesn't make sense. Do these guys typically do ED orders? I ask because for non-M cars, ED orders are not taken from their allocations. In other words, they can sell as many ED orders as they wish regardless of allocation. But, M cars DO come from their allocation. Maybe they think it doesn't?

The deposit is steep, but not unheard of for a high dollar ED configuration. However, your state laws may actually negate the non-refundable bit.

It sounds like they're not comfortable with this order for some reason, like they're unsure of your commitment.

I was told BMW will charge back the dealership for the color even if they do the r&d and it's not approved. They said the color is not unreasonable but have to make sure the plant can spray the paint. This is all moot if they say yes. If they don't I'm backing out of the deal completely. Don't want to be forced into a color I don't want. I'll have to check NY state laws on the deposit. I can assure you I'm getting everything in writing before I give them a dollar. I've already explicitly stated everything must be in writing signed by both parties. They agreed.

Due to the lead time I'd be getting one of the first MY17 which is nice!

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by m3aviator

I was told BMW will charge back the dealership for the color even if they do the r&d and it's not approved. They said the color is not unreasonable but have to make sure the plant can spray the paint. This is all moot if they say yes. If they don't I'm backing out of the deal completely. Don't want to be forced into a color I don't want. I'll have to check NY state laws on the deposit. I can assure you I'm getting everything in writing before I give them a dollar. I've already explicitly stated everything must be in writing signed by both parties. They agreed.

Due to the lead time I'd be getting one of the first MY17 which is nice!

I forgot about the fact that it's an r&d order. That does make sense and does warrant the non-refundable deposit since it's a legitimate cost.