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      01-29-2014, 08:56 PM   #133
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Weren't they reporting an 8.8" nav screen before. Is 10.2" right? That seems huge. Nice to also see the shadowline exterior comes standard, along with the CF interior trim.
8.8" Nav screen, for certain.
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Wait so getting a new car is not a good deal? That is breaking news to me the people that can afford this car and are buying it is because

A: They can afford it
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C: They don't care if the price is off by a couple grand.

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      01-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #135
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According to the bmw.co.uk 'build your own', the shadowline trim on the exterior is 'high-gloss,' and full leather is the one that covers the dash.
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      01-29-2014, 09:23 PM   #136
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I'm confuse about the full and extender leather, I don't want the leather under my dashboard so which one do I need to pick?
Extended has NO dash leather, glove box leather, or upper door leather. That is the one you want to pick.
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      01-29-2014, 09:27 PM   #137
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"Alcantara" headliner seems to be a typo, and the "M Dynamic Damper Control" seems to me like a bad translation of MDM.
MDM is listed later: "Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) with M Dynamic Mode".

I think M Dynamic Damper Control was an artifact from the F10 M5 info that was hastily copy-pasted to create this abomination of a feature list.

Somewhere in this universe there is an alien riding a unicorn and holding some error-free BMW marketing literature.
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      01-29-2014, 09:28 PM   #138
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I guess that that is the message, although the carbon roof pricing difference between the E92 and E90 M3 was about $1300.

So add that as well and we are down to just $900 in the M3.
So $900 for a newer, more technologically advanced motor (..with more power and more torque), a better derived suspension, a lighter transmission, some awesome sport buckets, among other things??!???! Yeah! I think we got a good deal.
Tech is becoming a lot cheaper also. I think their margins are growing.
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      01-29-2014, 09:49 PM   #139
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Carbon Fiber interior trim is standard?!!
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I think some of the standard features were taken from the M5/M6 sheet...or the intern putting this sheet together needs to be fired. BMW needs to get their act together...
Happens every launch. Many errors in the initial documents.
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      01-29-2014, 10:01 PM   #141
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I'm sorry but I'm a bit disappointed with the sheer amount of mess-ups BMW is making with the "misinformation". These are the M models, they should have at least a senior person from the Germany verify these documents. It looks like a guy from the NJ office tried to translate the documents that were in German and did not do a good job. Come on, we live in year 2014.

So does the car have MDM only or does it have Adaptive M Suspension? Is Adaptive M Suspension a feature that only exists in F30 cars and was copy pasted by mistake? And what was copy pasted by mistake from the M5/M6 sheet? This is crazy.
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So LED lights save weight? How much?
All theoretical, but from what I know about the two lighting systems I'd say under a pound.
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      01-29-2014, 10:06 PM   #143
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LOL, when I go on a road trip that I am unfamiliar with I do, in case there's a traffic jam I can quickly find an alternate route. I'm 34 but I'm old school. Something satisfying about doing some things the old fashioned way.
I'm 65, and Nav finds alternate routes much more quickly, and you don't have to pull to the side of the road (like you even can on a freeway). Must admit a I still have maps in the car as backups, but have never used them.
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      01-29-2014, 10:11 PM   #144
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I'm 65, and Nav finds alternate routes much more quickly, and you don't have to pull to the side of the road (like you even can on a freeway). Must admit a I still have maps in the car as backups, but have never used them.
I read a lot of your posts in the DIY section which helped me a lot and now I respect you even more. 65 and driving a E92 M3
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      01-29-2014, 10:14 PM   #145
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LOL, when I go on a road trip that I am unfamiliar with I do, in case there's a traffic jam I can quickly find an alternate route. I'm 34 but I'm old school. Something satisfying about doing some things the old fashioned way.
I'm 65, and Nav finds alternate routes much more quickly, and you don't have to pull to the side of the road (like you even can on a freeway). Must admit a I still have maps in the car as backups, but have never used them.
I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
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      01-29-2014, 10:14 PM   #146
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I like the way they package up these cars. not trying to be toooo Porsche like which milk customer's money at best.
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I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
User error? My E92 one has worked perfectly.
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I like the way they package up these cars. not trying to be toooo Porsche like which milk customer's money at best.
Yeah, can't complain too much. Porsche is king at nickel-diming every little thing. You can get exactly what you want, but you can damn near double the base price.
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I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
User error? My E92 one has worked perfectly.
The navi in my previous E90 M3 worked perfectly. The Navi problems in the F10s are well documented. Hope they fix them in the F8x.
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The navi in my previous E90 M3 worked perfectly. The Navi problems in the F10s are well documented. Hope they fix them in the F8x.
Wonder how they went backwards?
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The navi in my previous E90 M3 worked perfectly. The Navi problems in the F10s are well documented. Hope they fix them in the F8x.
What problems? How can M5's navigation be worse than the E90's?
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...and from the 7 pages of questions and confusion, I'll wait till first deliveries occur before formulating an opinion. Good questions though!
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What problems? How can M5's navigation be worse than the E90's?
It's much worse.

They switched mapping companies, and they also seem to have changed the routing algorithm.



Illegal U turn through a divided road rather than taking the cloverleaf exit on the other side.



Loop de loop



Totally the best one ever. Get off the highway and back on.
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Lol. So thread summary is... we're still confused about what is accurate
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