Time to replace CCB Rotors/pads? That'll be $17,000+

[Curt2000]

CCB Replacement Rotors
Front Left: 34112284805 $4,461
Front Right: 34112284806 $4,461
Rear Left: 34212284807 $3,824
Rear Right: 34212284808 $3,824

CCB Replacement Pads
Front: 34112284970 $565
Rear: 34212284990 $341

All total: $17,477 plus sales tax if you buy from a dealer ($1,572 in CA) and BMW labor...Could be north of $20,000 after all is said and done.

GTR owners be like...welcome to the club bro!

[m3z]

Isn't there a company who sells a 25k carbon ceramic rotor kit that has a life time guarantee?

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by m3z

Isn't there a company who sells a 25k carbon ceramic rotor kit that has a life time guarantee?

Not that I know of. Starting to sound like a deal though!

[ES_TRADER]

How many miles do stock ccb last? Normal usage let's say

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by ES_TRADER

How many miles do stock ccb last? Normal usage let's say

All depends, I know the GTR guys were due for a change at around the 25k-30k mile mark. Im sure it could go either way depending on your usage.

[Jaymax85]

wow thats gonna kill resale value on the CCB cars

[Blksnowflake]

I'll keep my steelies.

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by jawwadh

wow thats gonna kill resale value on the CCB cars

Pick one up cheap because the CCBs are shot and replace them with Brembo GTs for half the price lol.

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

I'll keep my steelies.

Atleast they wont cost as much as a S2000 to replace

[CanAutM3]

[GlobalScientist]

Hmm. So is the resale value better or worse with carbon brakes? I'd think better. Don't you just replace the carbon pads eventually? Why would you need to replace the rotors?

[hellrotm]

There is the reason a lot the 911 GT3 owners switch their PCCB's to steel brakes. It is even worse if you track your carbon ceramics with more aggressive track pads. You will replacing those expensive rotors before you know it.

Carbon ceramic rotors are fragile, be careful taking wheels on and off.

[MWcoupe]

I believe the pads guarantee 100k miles without tracking!

[Jaymax85]

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

I believe the pads guarantee 100k miles without tracking!

But the CCB has advantages on a track.. So buying it for a solely street driven vehicle is a waste.

[richardg]

Originally Posted by m3z

Isn't there a company who sells a 25k carbon ceramic rotor kit that has a life time guarantee?

Movit is the company that does. Movit and RacingBrake are big in the Porsche community addressing CCB needs.

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Originally Posted by GlobalScientist

Hmm. So is the resale value better or worse with carbon brakes? I'd think better. Don't you just replace the carbon pads eventually? Why would you need to replace the rotors?

Rotors ware out too...GTRs have to replace theirs every 35k miles and thats street driving, tracking could be much sooner.

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

There is the reason a lot the 911 GT3 owners switch their PCCB's to steel brakes. It is even worse if you track your carbon ceramics with more aggressive track pads. You will replacing those expensive rotors before you know it.

Carbon ceramic rotors are fragile, be careful taking wheels on and off.

I dont think people understand how easy it is to damage the Ceramic rotors, one ding from wheel removal or rock getting in the wheel well and you are facing a serious bill. Not to mention the big question, how long will they last from normal driving???

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

I believe the pads guarantee 100k miles without tracking!

Not according to the M5 maintenance plan...

Originally Posted by jawwadh

But the CCB has advantages on a track.. So buying it for a solely street driven vehicle is a waste.

Originally Posted by richardg

Movit is the company that does. Movit and RacingBrake are big in the Porsche community addressing CCB needs.

I foresee many CCB owners seeking aftermarket replacements with OEM costs this high.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Curt2000

Rotors ware out too...GTRs have to replace theirs every 35k miles and thats street driving, tracking could be much sooner.

I dont think people understand how easy it is to damage the Ceramic rotors, one ding from wheel removal or rock getting in the wheel well and you are facing a serious bill. Not to mention the big question, how long will they last from normal driving???


Not according to the M5 maintenance plan...





I foresee many CCB owners seeking aftermarket replacements with OEM costs this high.

Thanks for that photo. My CA was trying to tell me CCB are covered under maintenance and I was like dude you're on crack. This is nice proof.

EDIT: Actually he's still arguing they are covered. Interesting.

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Thanks for that photo. My CA was trying to tell me CCB are covered under maintenance and I was like dude you're on crack. This is nice proof.

EDIT: Actually he's still arguing they are covered. Interesting.

Most dealerships probably wont mind replacing a set of pads considering what their cost on the parts is vs. how much they will make on a $8k increase on the original sale value. Rotors will be a different story!

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

The reason they are "not covered" is because their life expectancy and maintenance schedule doesn't fall within the 4/50k that is provided with the vehicle.

You just spent $8k ($9k+ because you have to get the 19" wheels) on an option with the car. IF there is an issue with them, you bet BMW will warranty it.

[MatthewDavid]

I still haven't seen evidence of a damaged rotor from wheel change or rock provided by anyone on this forum despite numerous claims.

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by MatthewDavid

I still haven't seen evidence of a damaged rotor from wheel change or rock provided by anyone on this forum despite numerous claims.

have a look at rennlist/porsche forums, particularly on the 911 turbo sections... there are countless complaint about PCCB chipping.

carbon ceramic brakes are a bit of a gimmick on a street car. they only offer marginal benefit in braking performance on streets (if we keep the rotor and pad size the same), and no wear near as durable and consistent as a true race quality BBK kit on track. the only significant benefit is the reduction in unsprung weight, leading to better ride quality.

at more than $8k, you are better off getting a stoptech trophy or brembo kit if you want a major improvement in braking performance.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

have a look at rennlist/porsche forums, particularly on the 911 turbo sections... there are countless complaint about PCCB chipping.

Yup, chipping is known to happen. Even just from debris or a rock.

ZR1 and new Z06 come with ceramic rotor protectors for taking wheels on and off.

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

carbon ceramic brakes are a bit of a gimmick on a street car. they only offer marginal benefit in braking performance on streets (if we keep the rotor and pad size the same), and no wear near as durable and consistent as a true race quality BBK kit on track. the only significant benefit is the reduction in unsprung weight, leading to better ride quality.

at more than $8k, you are better off getting a stoptech trophy or brembo kit if you want a major improvement in braking performance.

+1

[FTS]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

have a look at rennlist/porsche forums, particularly on the 911 turbo sections... there are countless complaint about PCCB chipping.

carbon ceramic brakes are a bit of a gimmick on a street car. they only offer marginal benefit in braking performance on streets (if we keep the rotor and pad size the same), and no wear near as durable and consistent as a true race quality BBK kit on track. the only significant benefit is the reduction in unsprung weight, leading to better ride quality.

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/7...l#post12093106