Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[jpy1980]

Hmm did you guys notice the leaves collecting in this spot?

I know the F8x gen gets leaves in its oil cooler/heat exchanger area, but this is different.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by jpy1980

Hmm did you guys notice the leaves collecting in this spot?

I know the F8x gen gets leaves in its oil cooler/heat exchanger area, but this is different.

I'm sorry, I believe you are mistaken. That is just a little tarter on those buckteeth

[jpy1980]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I'm sorry, I believe you are mistaken. That is just a tarter on those buckteeth

Ha! made me almost spit out my coffee!

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by irunalot

It's so very obvious that the influencers on YouTube are getting paid on some way. They are doing ALL on YouTube to get paid with subscribers sponsors etc. It's so damn obvious that they are trying to manipulate people as they are not as good at it as network TV. They all have the same narrative; the grill isn't that bad and then try to find something positive. Such the lights, smoked reflectors, carbon bits, or say wait to people mod it. Every one of them has uttered weight, size, and numbness. They will say nothing but good things as BMW is obviously doing "something" as they all say the exact same thing. If it was so freaking great you would not have to make excuses for its looks. It would be "forget the looks this thing is mega" etc… Instead, we are looking at smoked reflectors and the ramblings of idiot savant wanna be YouTube car reviewers on a test drive to the local Dennys.

I've ranted about this before but US FTC regulations require social media influencers to disclose sponsorships or considerations. So either they're not being paid at all (ahem), or they're violating the regs. Or maybe non-US based influencers don't think the FTC can or will touch them.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Darth One

I've ranted about this before but US FTC regulations require social media influencers to disclose sponsorships or considerations. So either they're not being paid at all (ahem), or they're violating the regs. Or maybe non-US based influencers don't think the FTC can or will touch them.

Yup, it's a hard standard to enforce because not all compensation is in money. Clicks, views, subs. It's not just BMW, but I've noticed this with a lot of companies varying across industries. It's just the "new" form of guerilla marketing. Producers of consumers good and content are benefitting extremely well from the lack of a cohesive standard of reporting - the advent of accessible media and switch from conventional news/journalism sources has allowed them to bypass independent third parties and really stack the deck in their favor as it relates to the information that is getting out. They're essentially grabbing power back from what used to be considered a trusted consumer information source. In an extremely oversimplified example, you won't catch C&D dead saying half the bullsh*t that is spewed by "influencers" about a car, its capabilities, and even its fundamental mechanics - that's what happens when you have to adhere to a minimum standard of reporting/journalism. The unfortunate result of all this, is the conventional third party sources that we would have relied on that maintain a decent standard of reporting are now getting drowned out and sufferings from lack of viewer/readership. I have so many thoughts and grievances with social media, its relationship to consumers, and how companies utilize it against consumer interests... but that's not the point of this thread. /EndRant

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

You beat me to it. They essentially fixed all the design miscues. I would consider this the supermodel photoshoot. Reality of what you wake up next to is going to be different lol. I'd rather wake up next to the F80. Doesn't need makeup to look hot.

Well it does need some make-up, as does any car. Sometimes that make-up comes from the factory and sometimes it comes from the aftermarket.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by Darth One

I've ranted about this before but US FTC regulations require social media influencers to disclose sponsorships or considerations. So either they're not being paid at all (ahem), or they're violating the regs. Or maybe non-US based influencers don't think the FTC can or will touch them.

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Yup, it's a hard standard to enforce because not all compensation is in money. Clicks, views, subs. It's not just BMW, but I've noticed this with a lot of companies varying across industries. It's just the "new" form of guerilla marketing. Producers of consumers good and content are benefitting extremely well from the lack of a cohesive standard of reporting - the advent of accessible media and switch from conventional news/journalism sources has allowed them to bypass independent third parties and really stack the deck in their favor as it relates to the information that is getting out. They're essentially grabbing power back from what used to be considered a trusted consumer information source. In an extremely oversimplified example, you won't catch C&D dead saying half the bullsh*t that is spewed by "influencers" about a car, its capabilities, and even its fundamental mechanics - that's what happens when you have to adhere to a minimum standard of reporting/journalism. The unfortunate result of all this, is the conventional third party sources that we would have relied on that maintain a decent standard of reporting are now getting drowned out and sufferings from lack of viewer/readership. I have so many thoughts and grievances with social media, its relationship to consumers, and how companies utilize it against consumer interests... but that's not the point of this thread. /EndRant

I think what they're doing is basically a "collab or collaboration" with the influencer by providing the vehicle, tires, insurance, and delivery of said vehicle to the influencer so they have "first" access to get the likes and subscribers so YouTube can pay them and their videos get bumped up in the algorithm. Its equivalent to giving a foodie a paid meal to get a good Yelp review. It's no different than a corporate gift to clients to win their business. BMW surely writes this all of as marketing expenses.

In the age of COVID, this has replaced what was traditionally done at BMW driving events to drum up hype for new models by allowing public access to enthusiasts and fans of the brand. Though they did initially go this route, I think the fan base universally hated the G8x except for a handful of folks (I can count them on one hand on this thread), they turned to plan B which was get the cars to the influencers to shill it for them.

But you're totally right that they're spinning the story by preventing the professional media from speaking the truth and allowing only influencers who themselves have been influenced and are motivated by their own drive for generating likes and income, to get ahead of the true narrative. Which could be effective b/c you will get people who really only use IG and FB as their source of news and information to eat up every word. This is the same strategy that the film industry has recently switched to promote their movies via Rotten Tomatoes using "fake critics" with "fake reviews" to skew the movie's score to the positive end to get people to watch, or in this case, subscribe to HBO Max. I believe BMW has adopted this strategy, hence the embargo on real journalistic reviews, leaving us all so far with are influencer YT "fake" or hollow misleading reviews without driving impressions.

https://www.indiependent.co.uk/wonde...iased-or-fake/

[mahalom3]

[QUOTE=jpy1980;27302835]Ha! made me almost spit out my coffee![/QUO

I refer the front end as the Bucked Tooth Grille

[CT_M3]

Here they come! Sigh. I'm sick and tired of these guys. Every single one I make sure I don't sub.

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I think what they're doing is basically a "collab or collaboration" with the influencer by providing the vehicle, tires, insurance, and delivery of said vehicle to the influencer so they have "first" access to get the likes and subscribers so YouTube can pay them and their videos get bumped up in the algorithm. Its equivalent to giving a foodie a paid meal to get a good Yelp review. It's no different than a corporate gift to clients to win their business. BMW surely writes this all of as marketing expenses.

In the age of COVID, this has replaced what was traditionally done at BMW driving events to drum up hype for new models by allowing public access to enthusiasts and fans of the brand. Though they did initially go this route, I think the fan base universally hated the G8x except for a handful of folks (I can count them on one hand on this thread), they turned to plan B which was get the cars to the influencers to shill it for them.

But you're totally right that they're spinning the story by preventing the professional media from speaking the truth and allowing only influencers who themselves have been influenced and are motivated by their own drive for generating likes and income, to get ahead of the true narrative. Which could be effective b/c you will get people who really only use IG and FB as their source of news and information to eat up every word. This is the same strategy that the film industry has recently switched to promote their movies via Rotten Tomatoes using "fake critics" with "fake reviews" to skew the movie's score to the positive end to get people to watch, or in this case, subscribe to HBO Max. I believe BMW has adopted this strategy, hence the embargo on real journalistic reviews, leaving us all so far with are influencer YT "fake" or hollow misleading reviews without driving impressions.

https://www.indiependent.co.uk/wonde...iased-or-fake/

[MFNATIK]

[QUOTE=mahalom3;27303557]

Originally Posted by jpy1980

Ha! made me almost spit out my coffee![/QUO

I refer the front end as the Bucked Tooth Grille

That's funny but I call it BMW's biggest misstep in design direction in the last 100 years

This is way worse than the Bangle butt E65 or Auntie Edna eyeglass styled headlights on the E60

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I think what they're doing is basically a "collab or collaboration" with the influencer by providing the vehicle, tires, insurance, and delivery of said vehicle to the influencer so they have "first" access to get the likes and subscribers so YouTube can pay them and their videos get bumped up in the algorithm. Its equivalent to giving a foodie a paid meal to get a good Yelp review. It's no different than a corporate gift to clients to win their business. BMW surely writes this all of as marketing expenses.

In the age of COVID, this has replaced what was traditionally done at BMW driving events to drum up hype for new models by allowing public access to enthusiasts and fans of the brand. Though they did initially go this route, I think the fan base universally hated the G8x except for a handful of folks (I can count them on one hand on this thread), they turned to plan B which was get the cars to the influencers to shill it for them.

But you're totally right that they're spinning the story by preventing the professional media from speaking the truth and allowing only influencers who themselves have been influenced and are motivated by their own drive for generating likes and income, to get ahead of the true narrative. Which could be effective b/c you will get people who really only use IG and FB as their source of news and information to eat up every word. This is the same strategy that the film industry has recently switched to promote their movies via Rotten Tomatoes using "fake critics" with "fake reviews" to skew the movie's score to the positive end to get people to watch, or in this case, subscribe to HBO Max. I believe BMW has adopted this strategy, hence the embargo on real journalistic reviews, leaving us all so far with are influencer YT "fake" or hollow misleading reviews without driving impressions.

https://www.indiependent.co.uk/wonde...iased-or-fake/

Most of these "buyers" will dump their car within a 2 year period.

That's how these car influencers always do it. It is extremely rare they hold onto any car because it won't give them profit or anything past a certain date. I saw this guy who bought his dream car, a GT4 (hence why I saw the video lol) and within 4 month period, he sold it. His reasoning was that, because this was also a job, if the videos aren't generating enough profits, he has to get rid of it to do something new.

That is ALL these YouTube people do. It is almost universal at this point. So, any one of these yahoos saying that in their videos, I can promise those cars will be gone within a 2 year period or less. Especially once the real reviews from drivers that actually have a brain cell and know their cars like Chris Harris.

Influencers are the worst. Most are awful at lying, and rarely have anything beneficial/helpful to say if you, yourself, did any homework before hand. BMW finding these ppl to do their talking will backfire eventually because they aren't loyal. Once the hype dies off, they move on to another new thing. It is always the same cycle over and over.

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

Yuck! I thought we were over the gold fad already... Guess not.
Shahs of Sunset M3/M4.
People, gold anything on a car is ugly. Period!
The ONLY car it works on is a Pagani Zonda R.

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by CT_M3

Here they come! Sigh. I'm sick and tired of these guys. Every single one I make sure I don't sub.

Should be marked as "Cars for dummies by dummies".

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Most of these "buyers" will dump their car within a 2 year period.

That's how these car influencers always do it. It is extremely rare they hold onto any car because it won't give them profit or anything past a certain date. I saw this guy who bought his dream car, a GT4 (hence why I saw the video lol) and within 4 month period, he sold it. His reasoning was that, because this was also a job, if the videos aren't generating enough profits, he has to get rid of it to do something new.

That is ALL these YouTube people do. It is almost universal at this point. So, any one of these yahoos saying that in their videos, I can promise those cars will be gone within a 2 year period or less. Especially once the real reviews from drivers that actually have a brain cell and know their cars like Chris Harris.

Influencers are the worst. Most are awful at lying, and rarely have anything beneficial/helpful to say if you, yourself, did any homework before hand. BMW finding these ppl to do their talking will backfire eventually because they aren't loyal. Once the hype dies off, they move on to another new thing. It is always the same cycle over and over.

I have a feeling they are relying on the YouTube streaming income to pay for their "dream car" so once the views and likes go down, they gotta move onto the next hype car to keep people watching their crap.

[dms-01]

Nothing wrong with gold on a car. My buddy has had a couple MB sprinters, one blue and one cement gray. Both he did gold emblems and badges and it's a subtle nice touch.

[irunalot]

Manufacturers give them cars so they can get viewers, this makes them money. If a manufacturer does not like what you say you will get cut off. It happened to Chris Harris with Ferrari. As stated, its gorilla marketing done by unqualified reviewers. It's sad that BMW has resorted to this garbage. It's manipulative as they are trying their best to keep BMW happy and are not providing truthful reviews of a product.

You think that G80 was taken to AMMO because he's an awesome detailer? No, it's so they could expose it to his viewers. While doing so it also drives up his traffic. I personally love AMMO but can still see the manipulation.

I guess everyone is doing it now. You can avoid or hedge the bad reviews from real journalists with an overload of garbage opinions that eventually make the good journalists look like the loons.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by pbar

highlighted the non-grille lines ... disguised the hood "vents" ... put a character line through the door handles where it should be.

They've done a similar job on the rear end.

Exactly! They've essentially added what should've been there and hid everything else - the other smart move is the asymmetrical hood/roof/trunk decal which pulls the eye from the center of the car to only focus on the left 1/3 top and the shoulder line.

Really good makeup job - clean and from a distance it undoes the clashing lines disaster.

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

the supermodel photoshoot. Reality of what you wake up next to is going to be different

[CT_M3]

Another idea that struck me is body colored grills! I'm sure some enterprising after market company will offer it.

Lipstick on a pig.

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Exactly! They've essentially added what should've been there and hid everything else - the other smart move is the asymmetrical hood/roof/trunk decal which pulls the eye from the center of the car to only focus on the left 1/3 top and the shoulder line.

Really good makeup job - clean and from a distance it undoes the clashing lines disaster.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by CT_M3

Another idea that struck me is body colored grills! I'm sure some enterprising after market company will offer it.

Lipstick on a pig.

They kinda fixed the mirrors and side vent too:

[stein_325i]

Radar sensor still looks awful and hard to miss. The only way to make this car pretty is to redesign the whole front bumper, hood, and headlights.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Radar sensor still looks awful and hard to miss. The only way to make this car pretty is to redesign the whole front bumper, hood, and headlights.

Whoa now. You forgot the fenders, front door, mirrors, rear door, rear quarter panel, trunk, rear bumper, taillights, and exhaust valence. The only thing they got right about the G8X is the interior and that's only bc a separate team designed it from the exterior.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Whoa now. You forgot the fenders, front door, mirrors, rear door, rear quarter panel, trunk, rear bumper, taillights, and exhaust valence. The only thing they got right about the G8X is the interior and that's only bc a separate team designed it from the exterior.

True, a lot of items, with a new front bumper hood and headlights it would at least be passable though, main point is that even in all black with those manhart modifications, those three main design cues still stuck out like a sore thumb even on the "best" spec. No lipstick/makeup to fix this but rather deep cosmetic surgery.