Upgrade to M3 CS?

LOW4LYF · 08-06-2020, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The deletion of the center armrest is mostly about freeing up elbow room to handle the steering wheel while driving on track. I actually find it very welcome.

The DCT is wonderful on track is the faster option. Too many people fail to understand the purpose of a CS.

Please, please don't say the CS is good to go track car coming out of a showroom.

What is the purpose of the CS in your eyes?

CanAutM3 · 08-06-2020, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

Please, please don't say the CS is good to go track car coming out of a showroom.

What is the purpose of the CS in your eyes?

A dual use car, practical daily driver and track toy, with a bit more bias towards track use compared to the base or CP M4.

As with other M3/4, it needs very little to be track ready.

LOW4LYF · 08-06-2020, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

A dual use car, practical daily driver and track toy, with a bit more bias towards track use compared to the base or CP M4.

As with other M3/4, it needs very little to be track ready.

I would agree to that, still some configuration doesn't make sense to me.

spool twice · 08-06-2020, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

A dual use car, practical daily driver and track toy, with a bit more bias towards track use compared to the base or CP M4.

As with other M3/4, it needs very little to be track ready.

You mean us CS drivers aren't delusional and think its strictly a track-only car?

Assessment is spot on. If I wanted comfort access or a center arm rest, there were some nice 430i lease deals I could have picked up...

O/P, wait a year or so to see how the values play. Almost every BMW that currently is holding its value has sat on the lots, discounted to move, prices dropped, but stabilized over time. Some exceptions of course, but not with any 3/4 series I can remember aside from the e90 M3 CRT which consistently sold for more that MSRP.

F-series chassis is still too "new" to make that determination, even with a DCT-only. Considering there are current BMW's with "auto" transmissions that have leveled off after 4 or so years after depreciation, you'll find out a year or two so it's best to wait.

The only 2018 M3cs I can find on cars.com is on listed for 93k (pretty much near what the discounted price would have been with the LRG paint and CCBs back in 2018) can you send us a link for your frozen blue? Would be curious what the going rate is for that.

DML · 08-06-2020, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

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Originally Posted by UGADawgFan

However, at least with the limerock edition you could choose a manual and BMW didn't delete random useful things like comfort access, dual zone climate control (while still keeping all the heavy climate control electronics in the dash), a center console arm rest all to "save weight". But yet they have heavy power seats and a DCT.

I think the CS looks beautiful on the outside, but BMW made some head scratching decisions on the inside.

Agree! Such a beautiful car but weird specs as you said!

No comfort access but leather dashboard

Not to mention the rear sunshade. No armrest but a sunshade, so much for tossing weight.

CanAutM3 · 08-06-2020, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DML

Not to mention the rear sunshade. No armrest but a sunshade, so much for tossing weight.

Agreed, the rear sunshade BMW USA crammed in the CS’ exec pack did not make sense on a such a car. BMW Canada had more sense, the rear sunshade was not even offered on the CS here.

I’ll repeat it again, the center arm rest delete is about elbow room, not weight.

zamboni · 08-07-2020, 12:23 AM

For those who want to track their cars I would go for the CS version otherwise you better off getting a CP package. Agreed the CS had better wheels interior and suspension but the CP had better stereo and comfort access plus armrest.

Andrae26 · 08-07-2020, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

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There are only 600 CS in the US???

607 to be exact. There’s a sticky thread up top for reference on F80 M3 total production numbers. It’s probably well under 600 now since some had been totaled. Ask Andrae26

Lmao haha. I think I'm the first to total a M3CS. Still haunts me to this day seeing that beautiful SMB crumble up

. I loved the car so much that I went and got another lol. I've been going back and forth about letting it go, I've decide to buy my lease out

spool twice · 08-07-2020, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zamboni

For those who want to track their cars I would go for the CS version otherwise you better off getting a CP package. Agreed the CS had better wheels interior and suspension but the CP had better stereo and comfort access plus armrest.

What's the difference between an M3cs and CP stereo?

spool twice · 08-07-2020, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Agreed, the rear sunshade BMW USA crammed in the CS’ exec pack did not make sense on a such a car. BMW Canada had more sense, the rear sunshade was not even offered on the CS here.

I’ll repeat it again, the center arm rest delete is about elbow room, not weight.

If i end up keeping this car, it's the 1st thing I'll rip out. It's such a useless feature to me because I rarely have people in the back seat to actually get to use it.

If i could code it to trigger based on lock/unlock it would be more useful because I forget it's there.

It was unfortunately a necessary evil, in order to get the ICON headlights, it's bundled with the HUD (distracting to me), and rear sunshades. I'm not sure what BMW USA was thinking, but at least I can't complain that the car was brought over, we normally never get these unique low volume models until the arrival of the GTS (relatively speaking of course)

DML · 08-07-2020, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

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Originally Posted by DML

Not to mention the rear sunshade. No armrest but a sunshade, so much for tossing weight.

Agreed, the rear sunshade BMW USA crammed in the CS' exec pack did not make sense on a such a car. BMW Canada had more sense, the rear sunshade was not even offered on the CS here.

I'll repeat it again, the center arm rest delete is about elbow room, not weight.

Using the armrest comparison was poor (agreed not about weight) but the inclusion of a window shade was an odd choice. Oh well, that's BMW.....

DML · 08-07-2020, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Agreed, the rear sunshade BMW USA crammed in the CS’ exec pack did not make sense on a such a car. BMW Canada had more sense, the rear sunshade was not even offered on the CS here.

I’ll repeat it again, the center arm rest delete is about elbow room, not weight.

If i end up keeping this car, it's the 1st thing I'll rip out. It's such a useless feature to me because I rarely have people in the back seat to actually get to use it.

If i could code it to trigger based on lock/unlock it would be more useful because I forget it's there.

It was unfortunately a necessary evil, in order to get the ICON headlights, it's bundled with the HUD (distracting to me), and rear sunshades. I'm not sure what BMW USA was thinking, but at least I can't complain that the car was brought over, we normally never get these unique low volume models until the arrival of the GTS (relatively speaking of course)

Actually I've individually ordered the sunshade on previous BMW'S, It's pretty effective at providing privacy and cooling if you don't tint.

CanAutM3 · 08-07-2020, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DML

Using the armrest comparison was poor (agreed not about weight) but the inclusion of a window shade was an odd choice. Oh well, that's BMW.....

No, not BMW, but BMW USA...

jeepin29 · 08-07-2020, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

The only 2018 M3cs I can find on cars.com is on listed for 93k (pretty much near what the discounted price would have been with the LRG paint and CCBs back in 2018) can you send us a link for your frozen blue? Would be curious what the going rate is for that.

There are half a dozen or so CS listed on Autotrader. There was a FDB CS listed yesterday, but am not seeing it any more. I think it was in the $80k to $85k range IIRC.

UGADawgFan · 08-07-2020, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

What's the difference between an M3cs and CP stereo?

I'm pretty sure the CS gets the same H/K stereo as the rest of the cars, with just the deletion of a couple of speakers in the doors..and without the H/K branding. So same heavy amps and such.

E92M3LMB · 08-07-2020, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by UGADawgFan

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Originally Posted by spool twice

What's the difference between an M3cs and CP stereo?

I'm pretty sure the CS gets the same H/K stereo as the rest of the cars, with just the deletion of a couple of speakers in the doors..and without the H/K branding. So same heavy amps and such.

M3 CS gets the Harmon Kardon. I think it's the M4 CS that you are referring to.

UGADawgFan · 08-07-2020, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shapeshifter12

M3 CS gets the Harmon Kardon. I think it's the M4 CS that you are referring to.

ah thanks for the clarification!

either way, they left in a heavyish stereo for a part time track car, but they saved a few grams in deleting the radio antennas in the door handles for the comfort access lock/unlock.

paffinity · 08-19-2020, 11:14 AM

Anyone know how to remove the rear sunshade?

DML · 08-19-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paffinity

Anyone know how to remove the rear sunshade?

If it could be retrofitted, I'd buy it, full price.

ABenLauda · 08-19-2020, 09:37 PM

If you don't track frequently, it's better to keep the ZCP which without a doubt is the better DD. In terms of value, all of the F-series ///M cars are gonna depreciate and the CS (and even the GTS) is gonna depreciate even more considering its ridiculous sticker price. These are no Porsche GT cars.

CanAutM3 · 08-19-2020, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by abenney

If you don't track frequently, it's better to keep the ZCP which without a doubt is the better DD. In terms of value, all of the F-series ///M cars are gonna depreciate and the CS (and even the GTS) is gonna depreciate even more considering its ridiculous sticker price. These are no Porsche GT cars.

Depreciation is not measured from MSRP, it is measured from what one paid

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bmrm396 · 08-20-2020, 12:06 AM

To the OP, I just made the move to an M3CS and seriously if the money works for u don't even think twice do it and do it now. It's such a special feeling car u won't regret a minute of it, it puts a smile on my face every single day

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