Upgrade to M3 CS?

[csayad]

I have a few questions, I'm thinking of upgrading to a frozen blue M3CS. I was wondering if it's worth the extra money, and if it will appreciate in value or even just hold its value. Let me know your thoughts

[E46M3forRay]

Only around 600 were allocated for the US. What is there not to like aside from the obvious.

[Humdizzle]

My opinion it will probably follow the same rate of depreciation as the base model and ZCP. If you want something to hold value get an E92 Lime Rock.

the CS was heavily discounted because they were sitting on lots. And most of the people who did jump into them only did so at crazy deals where they paid the same or a few bucks more per month than their base/zcp lease.

be careful with owning a frozen color though. they can be difficult to maintain.

[nickl630]

Originally Posted by csayad

I have a few questions, I'm thinking of upgrading to a frozen blue M3CS. I was wondering if it's worth the extra money, and if it will appreciate in value or even just hold its value. Let me know your thoughts

No one knows. We've talked about this at length on the CS Facebook group.

Just about all special edition M's have been heavily discounted (minus the 1M) and dropped in value as normal once used.

It seems to take 5+ years for the market to figure out if the car is desirable or not (E46 ZCP, E92 Lime Rock, M2 vs M2ZCP (lower production numbers), 30 Jare, M4 GTS, Heritage Edition etc)

The M3CS will have the best chance of leveling off/going up if it does... with around 600 units in the US and only made one year... I dont feel the same for the M4CS with how many units have been made vs the M3. Just my opinion though.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

My opinion it will probably follow the same rate of depreciation as the base model and ZCP. If you want something to hold value get an E92 Lime Rock.

the CS was heavily discounted because they were sitting on lots. And most of the people who did jump into them only did so at crazy deals where they paid the same or a few bucks more per month than their base/zcp lease.

be careful with owning a frozen color though. they can be difficult to maintain.

The Lime Rock edition is only a CP with orange paint and stitching. There’s nothing special about it performance wise.

I sure wouldn’t buy a CS as an investment either. They are meant to be driven.

[Taco_Bueno]

I would've paid a heavy markup to find one in frozen blue. From what I've seen, frozen colors in general seem to hold value better.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The Lime Rock edition is only a CP with orange paint and stitching. There’s nothing special about it performance wise.

I sure wouldn’t by a CS as an investment either. They are meant to be driven.

I know right? I'm lost why the Limerock Edition is even holding its value over regular E92's.

At least the M3cs has items different enough to be considered "special"

But yeah, any car that's driven won't be an investment, at least not this new, but time will tell I suppose. It's better to wait until the vehicle has aged at least 3 years when the value's mostly drop off, aged as in model year and not when the person picked it up. It will likely level off by then and would then be a great buy.

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

My opinion it will probably follow the same rate of depreciation as the base model and ZCP. If you want something to hold value get an E92 Lime Rock.

the CS was heavily discounted because they were sitting on lots. And most of the people who did jump into them only did so at crazy deals where they paid the same or a few bucks more per month than their base/zcp lease.

be careful with owning a frozen color though. they can be difficult to maintain.

I have a frozen blue M3CS and it's actually very easy to maintain.

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by csayad

I have a few questions, I'm thinking of upgrading to a frozen blue M3CS. I was wondering if it's worth the extra money, and if it will appreciate in value or even just hold its value. Let me know your thoughts

I don't know if it will hold value. Too soon to judge. I have a frozen blue M3CS, car looks absolutely amazing. I stare at it all the time in my driveway.

[bsmf8x]

If you love the exterior of your car I'd do it because icon headlights + carbon fiber + frozen blue is gorgeous especially on 763m wheels very few sport sedan can look nearly as good

[khoa@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

Only around 600 were allocated for the US. What is there not to like aside from the obvious.

There are only 600 CS in the US???

[zamboni]

All M3 CS came only with DCT can't get a MT.

[nickl630]

Originally Posted by khoa@x-ph.com

There are only 600 CS in the US???

125 in Alpine White
118 in Black Sapphire Metallic
209 in San Marino Blue
155 in Special Order (Frozen Blue/LRG)

[E46M3forRay]

Originally Posted by khoa@x-ph.com

There are only 600 CS in the US???

607 to be exact. There’s a sticky thread up top for reference on F80 M3 total production numbers. It’s probably well under 600 now since some had been totaled. Ask Andrae26

[itrocks4u]

I'm guessing M3 is different from M4? MY 19 M4 CS trade in value by dealer is $60,000, which i thought was very low.

[henrylee]

If you want to be a little more exclusive then yes

[LOW4LYF]

No, not for the next couple of years tho. Not even the GTS is holding its value.

I can't say it enough, BMW destroyed with the CS discount the F8x market for now.

Lease low as $7xx and cash offers somewhere around 85k for a brand new CS!

The CS won't hold the value, you will loose every day as on any other F8x.

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

No, not for the next couple of years tho. Not even the GTS is holding its value.

I can't say it enough, BMW destroyed with the CS discount the F8x market for now.

Lease low as $7xx and cash offers somewhere around 85k for a brand new CS!

The CS won't hold the value, you will loose every day as on any other F8x.

If they revealed more of the G8x at the CS release instead of going the way of discounts, it may have been a very different story.

[khoa@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

607 to be exact. There’s a sticky thread up top for reference on F80 M3 total production numbers. It’s probably well under 600 now since some had been totaled. Ask Andrae26

Good info.

[UGADawgFan]

Originally Posted by spool twice

I know right? I'm lost why the Limerock Edition is even holding its value over regular E92's.

At least the M3cs has items different enough to be considered "special"

But yeah, any car that's driven won't be an investment, at least not this new, but time will tell I suppose. It's better to wait until the vehicle has aged at least 3 years when the value's mostly drop off, aged as in model year and not when the person picked it up. It will likely level off by then and would then be a great buy.

However, at least with the limerock edition you could choose a manual and BMW didn't delete random useful things like comfort access, dual zone climate control (while still keeping all the heavy climate control electronics in the dash), a center console arm rest all to "save weight". But yet they have heavy power seats and a DCT.

I think the CS looks beautiful on the outside, but BMW made some head scratching decisions on the inside.

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by UGADawgFan

However, at least with the limerock edition you could choose a manual and BMW didn't delete random useful things like comfort access, dual zone climate control (while still keeping all the heavy climate control electronics in the dash), a center console arm rest all to "save weight". But yet they have heavy power seats and a DCT.

I think the CS looks beautiful on the outside, but BMW made some head scratching decisions on the inside.

Agree! Such a beautiful car but weird specs as you said!

No comfort access but leather dashboard

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by UGADawgFan

However, at least with the limerock edition you could choose a manual and BMW didn't delete random useful things like comfort access, dual zone climate control (while still keeping all the heavy climate control electronics in the dash), a center console arm rest all to "save weight". But yet they have heavy power seats and a DCT.

I think the CS looks beautiful on the outside, but BMW made some head scratching decisions on the inside.

The deletion of the center armrest is mostly about freeing up elbow room to handle the steering wheel while driving on track. I actually find it very welcome.

The DCT is wonderful on track is the faster option. Too many people fail to understand the purpose of a CS.