BMW F30 F80 M3 / F32 M3 Spied for First Time!

[Mako]

Originally Posted by H_RV_0335

Great news! Interesting to see N54-55 going under the hood of an M3!

it won't be a N54 or 55, it will be a new 3.2L engine...

[l736k]

Originally Posted by HeartMD

Dont know if its just me but Im really not feeling those side mirrors. Looks to much Merc. One of the first things I fell in love with the E9X M's was the aerodynamic look of the the side mirrors...

new fuckin european rules requires huge mirrors from every car
every car has been disfigurated because of these stupid laws!
anyway i don't know if this apply to the american market too...hopely not!

[ChrisK]

All I can say is, "Test Mule".

Tri-Turbo does sound interesting though.

[John 070]

Are you guys excited by the technology or the looks? Because envisioning that car with normal paint, not sure it's something to write home to mother about. When the E46 and E90's debuted, I did think the shapes were something to write home to mother about.

[datbimmerdoe]

///m-azing!!!! this is the 1st time i can sort of make out the f30's headlights

[Reckamech]

4 Doors

[gwtw02]

Originally Posted by grimlock

Ha! My 528 has the same displacement as this thing

and is heavier with only half the power.,

[Phil325]

Originally Posted by TheDarkone

...electric? umm...wasn't there a device like that on ebay back in the day?

you're comparing an ebay half-assed item held together by a glue gun to BMW engineering with who knwos how much R&D.

[etc335i]

450hp?? ths thing needs 550hp!

[Jason]

Originally Posted by py335

can't wait! been wanting to see what the F30 ///M looks like for so long though. also not a huge fan of the side mirrors either =/

Originally Posted by l736k

new fuckin european rules requires huge mirrors from every car
every car has been disfigurated because of these stupid laws!
anyway i don't know if this apply to the american market too...hopely not!

Folks, this is just an early prototype. These aren't the production mirrors. You can expect sportier mirrors for the next gen M3 compared to the regular F30/F32.

Nobody seems to have much of an issue with the F10 M5 mirrors.

[Dr.Sommer]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

3. BMW M. Is a sub-brand of BMW as is BMWi. BMWi has stand alone products that do not crossover with a BMW. i3 for example has nothing to do with a 3er. If you take M for example. M takes the car away from it's BMW routes and completely transforms the way it drives and handles that it becomes an individual product. That is the idea for M and M3 and further signifies that M is a sub-brand within BMW with it's own products.

So the glory of the next M3 Coupe does neither shine on the 4er Coupe because it isn't an M4 nor does it shine on the 3 series sedan because it isn't a sedan???

[positiveions]

BMW, you gave me hope in the 4 door M3 again.
I like the 4 pot calipers in the front

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by stingray23

Whats the point, there's no V8. They can keep their 6 cylinder.

You realize that the E30 M3 had an inline 4, and both the E36 and E46 M3's had inline sixes right?

[bimmerJP]

I really hope that BMW can keep the 3er Coupe. I mean, 3 Series is BMW's icon. When people think about BMW, they think about 3 Series/M3. I just don't want to see the 4 Series. That is just... not right. I hope Scott is wrong this time... really... BMW shouldn't focus that much on the name. Well, yes I do, and that is because... IT IS 3 SERIES! Please BMW I know you guys want to create a naming system that people can understand easily. You can have 2 for 1's Coupe, 6 for 5's coupe, but please make an exception for the 3er.

[weip98]

There's no hood bulge like on the E9X. I'm going to miss that. The hood bulge really made the M3 stand out over the normal 3 series.

[bmrm396]

how do we KNOW thats a tri-turbo motor under that hood? just because its been rumored and slightly assumed, did someone peak under there or have x-ray vision or something???

just sayin ... it seems pretty likely but ___________?

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

You realize that the E30 M3 had an inline 4, and both the E36 and E46 M3's had inline sixes right?

Hard to please the masses. One hand you have all the people complaining about the intro of FI in the M3. On the other, you have people complaining about the next M3 going back to the straight 6 instead of sticking to the V8. (Wasn't the E30/E46 being touted as arguably the best M3?)

[sensi09]

So what's the point of a triturbo? Do they come on in succession to limit lag or for something else?

[sensi09]

Originally Posted by swamp2

In my experience 20 mpg is not attainable at normal freeway speeds of 65-80, perhaps 55.

Some members post quite high mpg IMO, but I do think a 20-21mpg is quite attainable from a steady 70-80 mph with some bursts to redline included.

[mhrir]

Please people! There is no such thing as an "electric" turbocharger. Turbochargers by definition are driven by a turbine which in most applications is powered by exhaust gases. So as has been noted already the engine will have 2 turbochargers and an electric supercharger. Technically a turbocharger is a type of supercharger so to say it is triple supercharged is accurate. A tri-turbo? No way.

[Echo M3]

Originally Posted by Staszek

Of course, thats not the point. The point is if I flog it now you get 12mpg, if I flog with more fuel efficient engine I could get 18-20. I would rather have 18-20 and 30 on the highway (which the M is no where near now).

You can really get 18-20 hp flogging a 400+hp twin turbo I-6 around a track or on a spirited drive? I find that hard to believe.

The point I am trying to raise is that fuel efficiency should not be much of a concern in a high performance vehicle. It's like buying a Gallardo and then complaining about the ride height in the winter; it's defeating the purpose.

The Motorsports division was supposed to represent BMW motorsports brought to the street. When we get carried away by luxury and fuel efficiency, we begin to forget what these cars are all about.

That being said, I'm going to keep quiet until the first reviews of this tri-turbo engine. I hope it lives up to expectations.

[Echo M3]

Originally Posted by sensi09

Some members post quite high mpg IMO, but I do think a 20-21mpg is quite attainable from a steady 70-80 mph with some bursts to redline included.

+1. I can average 20-22 mpg on long highway cruises following the flow of traffic. Sometimes even higher. Having a 7th gear probably helps with that.