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      10-09-2019, 01:49 PM   #661
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...like I can pretty much shoot any gap and overtake anyone whenever I damn well please...
Exactly.
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A few more impressions I thought I'd share on my M3P that isn't related to how hard this thing pulls.

I notice I tend to be a more aware driver and I am way more calm behind the wheel. What I mean by that, is I feel less "road rage" and overall less aggressive of a driver because of it. Not sure if it's because it's quiet and unassuming. I love it, though! Makes my drives way less anxious.

Which brings me to my next point of never really wanting to "test it out" and doing pulls every chance I get. With every new car I've owned, I've wanted to practice launching, see what gear feels better, what mode, etc, etc. With the M3P the power and acceleration is always there. No downshifting, no "being in the right gear", no LC to activate. I feel more cocky, like I can pretty much shoot any gap and overtake anyone whenever I damn well please. Which in turn makes me a more calm driver. This is good and bad IMO.

Also, with my BMW's, Audi's and Muscle cars I noticed drivers around me would always get "butthurt" and go out of there way to either cut me off, race, and overall exhibit more road rage-like symptoms. The Tesla does no such thing.

I also find little quirks about it almost daily that always pleasantly surprise me.
Lol, are you me? I feel exactly the same way.

Do you also find it super surprising that you are actually typing that? If you told me 3 year ago an EV would be my favorite car ever I would have fallen off my chair laughing.
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      10-09-2019, 03:12 PM   #663
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So im basically going to mature like crazy once I get a tesla
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Lol, are you me? I feel exactly the same way.

Do you also find it super surprising that you are actually typing that? If you told me 3 year ago an EV would be my favorite car ever I would have fallen off my chair laughing.
Crazy, right?

I find it very surprising. As I said before, I hated the Model 3 and even Tesla when they first came out. It's an odd car but when people say it's "boring" or "soulless" I would have to disagree.

It never ceases to amaze me. I am almost 3 weeks into ownership and every time I stab that throttle it still makes me giggle like a little girl. The fact that the drives are less stressful as well is a nice bonus.
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Crazy, right?

I find it very surprising. As I said before, I hated the Model 3 and even Tesla when they first came out. It's an odd car but when people say it's "boring" or "soulless" I would have to disagree.

It never ceases to amaze me. I am almost 3 weeks into ownership and every time I stab that throttle it still makes me giggle like a little girl. The fact that the drives are less stressful as well is a nice bonus.
Can we get a X3m vs M3p Race setup ?
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Can we get a X3m vs M3p Race setup ?
That's the plan! It won't be pretty for the X3M. Sadly, I don't think it'll even be close. From a dig I may give the M3P a solid run if I time the LC just right but even then I don't think it stands a chance.

I want to see you get one and set up some runs with some fast cars. You guys in Florida have way more faster cars around.

Plus, the DA/altitude and 91 octane will not be doing the BMW any favors.
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With all these planned outages in California right now it got me thinking. How would I handle a sustained power outage with a Model 3 or any EV. Would having solar panels and Tesla Powerwall be sufficient to get me through several days of no electricity? How many times can a Powerwall charge a Model 3?
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With all these planned outages in California right now it got me thinking. How would I handle a sustained power outage with a Model 3 or any EV. Would having solar panels and Tesla Powerwall be sufficient to get me through several days of no electricity? How many times can a Powerwall charge a Model 3?
Hi, not all of CA is affected. You charge where there is power and you have 300mi range so it isn't that big a deal.

BTW, aren't there fuel shortages after some natural disasters? And don't fuel pumps work using electricity so gas cars can't refuel either?
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So im basically going to mature like crazy once I get a tesla
Well, if you live in a place with a lot of fast cars, you might not mature because you'll be too busy trying to egg those cars into going from a dig or doing low rolls with you

I think what dobs is saying is that you get a lot more selective on who you do rolls with because a lot of the time you're just wasting charge (like, do you do rolls with someone in a stock civic these days in your F80)
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... every time I stab that throttle it still makes me giggle like a little girl. The fact that the drives are less stressful as well is a nice bonus.
I actually use smaller throttle openings with this car in general. It only takes light pressure to leave traffic behind, and past half throttle you're moving, so there's no real need to go beyond that. That said, I still stomp on it once during most drives just for a laugh...

It's long been said that Americans "...buy horsepower, but drive torque..." and EVs are the ultimate expression of that sentiment.

That's also one reason we both like driving my wife's Q5 TDi as much as we do. 428 lb. ft. @ 1600 rpm, which sounded and was amazing until experiencing ~500 lb. ft. @ zero rpm! :-)
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I actually use smaller throttle openings with this car in general. It only takes light pressure to leave traffic behind, and past half throttle you're moving, so there's no real need to go beyond that. That said, I still stomp on it once during most drives just for a laugh...

It's long been said that Americans "...buy horsepower, but drive torque..." and EVs are the ultimate expression of that sentiment.

That's also one reason we both like driving my wife's Q5 TDi as much as we do. 428 lb. ft. @ 1600 rpm, which sounded and was amazing until experiencing ~500 lb. ft. @ zero rpm! :-)
Let me have my fun the first couple of months and stab away at that “gas” pedal

I absolutely agree. My first drive home I was in “chill” mode and it had more than enough acceleration to zoom through traffic. I usually just drive on a lot of back roads with 50+ speed limit. So jabbing it from a light or low roll has just been addicting.

I drove the X3M today and actually enjoyed it but still wished I was driving the M3P you’re right, though. As soon as you experience that electric torque everything else is just... underwhelming.
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Out of curiosity, if I order a Tesla 3 now, is it a 2019 or already 2020 model? And all Tesla 3 get the California clean vehicle sticker, correct?

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Out of curiosity, if I order a Tesla 3 now, is it a 2019 or already 2020 model? And all Tesla 3 get the California clean vehicle sticker, correct?

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Fairly certain that Tesla assigns the model year based on when the vehicle is built. That is, if it's built in 2019, it's a 2019, built in 2020, it's a 2020, etc.
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Fairly certain that Tesla assigns the model year based on when the vehicle is built. That is, if it's built in 2019, it's a 2019, built in 2020, it's a 2020, etc.
This is true.

Depending on location, they might even have cars in stock.
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I keep coming back here...
If only turboawdfanatic would reply back to me about his M3P mods, wheels, chromed out? spacers? Perhaps I would "look back" (referring to my previous post). His M3P looks awesome!!

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I keep coming back here...
If only turboawdfanatic would reply back to me about his M3P mods, wheels, chromed out? spacers? Perhaps I would "look back" (referring to my previous post). His M3P looks awesome!!

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=648
Iím pretty sure those are Titan 7 TS5 wheels.

Iím not sure on the suspension but have seen the ďMountain Pass PerformanceĒ custom KW coilovers kit mentioned a lot on the Tesla forums.

I too hope s/he comes back to post because Iím very interested in learning about their range reduction and any clearance issues with the battery and steep driveways

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Iím pretty sure those are Titan 7 TS5 wheels.

Iím not sure on the suspension...
Wheels look to have spacers and/or a staggered setup - typically that means 10.5" wide rears...

I like to rotate my tires and so never really considered a staggered setup, even though it does look good that way.

Suspension looks stock height to me.
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That's the plan! It won't be pretty for the X3M. Sadly, I don't think it'll even be close. From a dig I may give the M3P a solid run if I time the LC just right but even then I don't think it stands a chance.

I want to see you get one and set up some runs with some fast cars. You guys in Florida have way more faster cars around.

Plus, the DA/altitude and 91 octane will not be doing the BMW any favors.
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I keep coming back here...
If only turboawdfanatic would reply back to me about his M3P mods, wheels, chromed out? spacers? Perhaps I would "look back" (referring to my previous post). His M3P looks awesome!!

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Sorry totally missed your post lol. Theyíre VS08ís in brushed titanium from VS Forged. Monoblock forged custom specíd to 20x8.5 +28 in front and 20x10 +35 in the rear. Running ps4s 235/35/20 and 275/30/20. I donít track or auto-x like I used to so I didnít really care for a more track friendly squared setup. If I get back into it Iíd get a dedicated track setup. My winter set is a 19Ē flow formed square setup. Stock suspension...may eventually get the MPP coilovers. I also did a DIY chrome delete.
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Sorry totally missed your post lol. Theyíre VS08ís in brushed titanium from VS Forged. Monoblock forged custom specíd to 20x8.5 +28 in front and 20x10 +35 in the rear. Running ps4s 235/35/20 and 275/30/20. I donít track or auto-x like I used to so I didnít really care for a more track friendly squared setup. If I get back into it Iíd get a dedicated track setup. My winter set is a 19Ē flow formed square setup. Stock suspension...may eventually get the MPP coilovers. I also did a DIY chrome delete.
What is your Wh/mi consumption these days? How did it change after the wheels?

What was your thinking around not going with 10" wide +35 in front also?
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Iím pretty sure those are Titan 7 TS5 wheels.

Iím not sure on the suspension but have seen the ďMountain Pass PerformanceĒ custom KW coilovers kit mentioned a lot on the Tesla forums.

I too hope s/he comes back to post because Iím very interested in learning about their range reduction and any clearance issues with the battery and steep driveways
I only drove on the stock 20ís for a couple thousand miles. But compared to the stocks, the wh/mile I get with the staggered set is a little better. On my 1800mile road trip I compared what I was getting to what abetterrouteplanner would predict..and I always seemed to get better efficiency. ABRP is crowd sourced data so I think itís a good comparison to stock wheels since I didnít have them on very long.

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What is your Wh/mi consumption these days? How did it change after the wheels?

What was your thinking around not going with 10" wide +35 in front also?

My avg wh/mile on this set of wheels is mid 280 to low 290ís. My stocks 20ís was mid to high 290ís. I could go wider in the front...but my thinking was that I didnít want to take a hit on efficiency...as Iíd have to also go with a wider front tire. The 235/275 is also a closer match to stock spec without having too much diameter variation front to back. For a street setup I havenít had any increased understeer...even with spirited driving.

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